Welding gas

[richw911]

How do you find the gasless, when i used it before it was ok but i prefer gas gives better neater welds imho

As you say gas is the way if you have the money for the gas 

[richw911]

i find that gasless is crap,   i get a much much neater weld with gas,  also find it much easyer with gas  also i find gasless wire is expensive.

would rather use pub gas than gasless

I pay £7 a reel 

[shepgti]

gasless wire isnt that expensive compared to gas bottle prices! not hard to get rid of the extra spatter from gasless anyway

[danny_p]

i find that gasless is crap,   i get a much much neater weld with gas,  also find it much easyer with gas  also i find gasless wire is expensive.

would rather use pub gas than gasless

I pay £7 a reel 

if your doing any quantity of welding  £7 for .5kg is expensive wire ( for mild steel anyway ) gasless wire dosent go very far ether.

BOC are rip off thingys  they tryed charge me over £120 to fill a 20 ltr + 100 PA rental so i told them to feck off never been near a BOC agent since,  i would try and get an account with a local supplyer they are about.  

as said i use industrial gases a lot of the bottels are air products so would recomned looking for an air products distubutor.

10ltr bottels are £4pm                       fill for £20 - 25
20ltr bottels are £5 or 6pm ( i think )    fill for less than  40 quid
50ltr bottels are £7pm                        fill for less than  60 quid


if you get stuck for gas i know of someone with a BOC account that chould have the bottel filled for you or give your bottel a top up

[Thom89]

If you know someone that runs a Pub, beg, steal, or borrow a cylinder of C02, buy a gauge, you should get for around £30ish or cheaper off the bay... the bottle will last for years!
Pub gas is perfectly adequate for what you want to do, its misgivings can be overcome by a slight change in style of what you used to.

Thom

[Diamond Hell]

Pub gas is perfectly adequate for what you want to do, its misgivings can be overcome by a slight change in style of what you used to.

Sorry Thom, but I used to use CO2 and it's cr@p vs Argoshield Light.  Danny said the pub gas suppliers now put a certain percent of oxygen in their CO2 specifically to screw those trying to use it as a weld shield and I'm inclined to believe him.

If you have a BOC bottle for Argoshield Light, find someone with a BOC account who rents the same size bottle and bung them some cash to get them to swap it for you.  If it was the same size as mine and you were close I'd do it for you gladly.

[danny_p]

if you can get 100% co2   it'll work.   the co2 nitrogen mixes whitch lots of beers use now don't work.  big migs with big wire behave much better on it than small ones.   small Mini migs need all the help they can get.


if your close ish to me i have an empty bottel of CO2 that i chould get filled for you or if you don't want it for long and i get the bottel back i have a bottel you can use

[Thom89]

Pub gas is perfectly adequate for what you want to do, its misgivings can be overcome by a slight change in style of what you used to.

Sorry Thom, but I used to use CO2 and it's cr@p vs Argoshield Light.  Danny said the pub gas suppliers now put a certain percent of oxygen in their CO2 specifically to screw those trying to use it as a weld shield and I'm inclined to believe him.

If you have a BOC bottle for Argoshield Light, find someone with a BOC account who rents the same size bottle and bung them some cash to get them to swap it for you.  If it was the same size as mine and you were close I'd do it for you gladly.

Its a long time since I've used it to honest, but in the past always got on with it reasonably OK, a lad I used to work with still uses it I'm sure, I'll give him a ring, and see  what the score is..

Thom

[richw911]

i find that gasless is crap,   i get a much much neater weld with gas,  also find it much easyer with gas  also i find gasless wire is expensive.

would rather use pub gas than gasless

I pay £7 a reel 

if your doing any quantity of welding  £7 for .5kg is expensive wire ( for mild steel anyway ) gasless wire dosent go very far ether.

BOC are rip off thingys  they tryed charge me over £120 to fill a 20 ltr + 100 PA rental so i told them to feck off never been near a BOC agent since,  i would try and get an account with a local supplyer they are about.  

as said i use industrial gases a lot of the bottels are air products so would recomned looking for an air products distubutor.

10ltr bottels are £4pm                       fill for £20 - 25
20ltr bottels are £5 or 6pm ( i think )    fill for less than  40 quid
50ltr bottels are £7pm                        fill for less than  60 quid


if you get stuck for gas i know of someone with a BOC account that chould have the bottel filled for you or give your bottel a top up

Interesting stuff

[whereufromnosecity]

I have some info back from 'adamsgas' of the net for argonshield light

£50 bottle deposit - refundable on return of bottle
£28 for refills
£24 for delivery of first order
£37 for collection of empty and delivery of full cylinder

So will more than likely use these guys, but i still have a last couple of local places to try tomorrow