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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #30 on: 12 January 2011, 08:53 »
Honestly?

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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #31 on: 12 January 2011, 08:56 »
Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater number.
It is far more likely that members and browsers of this forum are going to be GTI/GTD/R drivers. Other car drivers have the entire forum for discussion. I'm just talking about 1 small section.


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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #32 on: 12 January 2011, 09:05 »
The only thing putting people off visiting is the amount of crap and pointless threads. 

If you're letting Kev's comments get to you then there's something wrong.  You get haters of types / models.  Like I've said before  ignore them  :wink:

How do you think it looks to casual forum browsers?

See my quote above.  

From my perspective, Kev's quote is tongue in cheek and I think if you were browsing the forum you'd soon pick up on the type of comments etc he makes and from there you can form your own opinion.  Would you let ONE person's comments / style of posting put you off a forum containing thousands of members?  :undecided:

I think you need to spend some time in the other sections of the forum to get a flavour of the banter that goes on within the forum.

I called one of the lads a lazy cnut yesterday - he knows I don't mean it as even though I've never met him, I've helped him out with advice etc over the last few months and its all friendly banter  :smiley:

Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater number.
It is far more likely that members and browsers of this forum are going to be GTI/GTD/R drivers. Other car drivers have the entire forum for discussion. I'm just talking about 1 small section.

I disagree.  The more relative, appropriate content you have, the higher up the search rankings the site will be and therefore attract non-GTI / GTD / R members.  The MK4 and Mk5 sections attract all TDI owners not just the high performance GTI variants i.e the 150 and Anniversary models




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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #33 on: 12 January 2011, 15:56 »
You honestly think a 'casual browser' is going to spend so much time here that he/she will get an understanding of the personalities and language used?

So you think a casual browser spends lots of time on 1 internet forum?

You seem to think that I need to spend more time here so I can understand why some people here are so rude and give me a bad impression of this forum. :rolleyes:

Sorry I don't have that much time.

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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #34 on: 12 January 2011, 16:09 »
Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.

... did anyone ask for the section to be called just the GTD?

I'm not asking for the section to be called GTD? I just think, as other forum members do, that the performance diesel should be acknowledged and included in the title in some way.

My suggestion was TDI + GTD, but Docs suggestion is better.

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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #35 on: 12 January 2011, 16:11 »
If they are looking for information then they'll spend perhaps 5-10 minutes on here looking  :undecided:

Easily enough time to get a jist of how people post

This forum is one of many; each one is full of people who give you bad impressions.  

You seem to focus on the negative aspects rather than the positive.  This forum has been, and will continue to be an excellent resource for ALL GOLF owners, not just the go-faster ones.

Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.

... did anyone ask for the section to be called just the GTD?


At some point yes that was asked for

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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #36 on: 12 January 2011, 16:15 »
As polls are all the flavour this week, why not put it to the vote?
One of the Heavy Oil mods should stick a thread up in the TDI section with a few name suggestions and put it on a 7 day vote.
That way users of the TDI/GTD section will see it and vote and other members who don't/won't use the section shouldn't end up spamming it too much (probably)  :nerd:
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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #37 on: 12 January 2011, 16:17 »
A golf is a golf is a golf.

The reason the GTD is acceptable is because it is a GTI variant. The R is a separate model as are standard 1.4 Golf's. All are equally valuable models in the range but to say that they are all the same is a bit too general I think.

I personally have no problem if there was a GTI section and a GTD section within mk6. I do however feel that it should be called the GTD section and not just Tdi as Tdi in no way refers to the pedigree of the GTD.  

We all bought GTI/D models because we wanted GTI's or GTD's. That's not just because of he 2.0 TSI or TDI Engine, or the 5 seat configuration, or the styling, but also because the car is iconic and our understanding of that icon is class, quality, performance and practicality.

So why then should we deny that icon and call the GTD section the Tdi section.

Nice to see someone so open minded on this forum. Especially as the comments come form a GTI driver.  :cool:

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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #38 on: 12 January 2011, 16:22 »
VW call it a TDI. That's what it is. Simples.

Otherwise, please see my previous post.

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Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
« Reply #39 on: 12 January 2011, 16:37 »
Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.

... did anyone ask for the section to be called just the GTD?

I'm not asking for the section to be called GTD? I just think, as other forum members do, that the performance diesel should be acknowledged and included in the title in some way.

My suggestion was TDI + GTD, but Docs suggestion is better.

I originally asked for it to be called the GTD section. Not from the point of view of excluding other non-performance model owners, but instead with the aim of giving the GTD and GTI model equal footing.

I'll also be honest and say that I joined this forum because I thought it was specifically focused on GTI models. Otherwise "golfmk6" might have been a more attractive alternative.

When you buy a car such as the GTI over a standard petrol, you want to enjoy the pedigree.

And, as Daz Auto is saying, when you look at the GTD over a standard diesel you also want to enjoy the pedigree.  

VW call it a TDI. That's what it is. Simples.

Otherwise, please see my previous post.

But VW also market the GTD as separate to other diesels. The GTD, GTI and R all have a distinct section on the VW site. The GTD is not included in the standard diesel section nor is the GTI in the standard petrol section.

I drive a GTI and I will admit that sometimes I enjoy a bit of the diesel bashing just for banter. But the GTD is a special model and I don't think having a "GTI" section and a "TDI" section gives the GTD the respect it deserves.

Alternatively how would we feel about calling the two sections TSI and TDI? Personally I wouldn't like that because it doesn't recognise the special status of the GTI.
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