Author Topic: ESP  (Read 3576 times)

Offline AlanD

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,946
  • MK5 2.0T 16v
Re: ESP
« Reply #10 on: 21 December 2010, 16:06 »
The first thing you are taught is never to hit the brakes on ice or snow if the car starts to slide, just try to steer out of it.

I had a moment in the snow where Ive locked up (I wont beat about the bush, I was going too fast for the conditions) and the ABS was going mental and I have been able to steer (I use that term loosely as there is only so much control you can have when skidding on snow / slush / ice) whilst slowing down and let the ABS take over and it was fine. Had I not slammed on the brakes and let the ABS do its thing Im sure it would have ended badly.

My ESP will be staying on and not coming off.

Offline p3asa

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 4,460
Re: ESP
« Reply #11 on: 21 December 2010, 16:08 »
I'm sure I read although there is a switch to turn it off it doesn't mean it is off completely and the car still has an element of ESP if it goes in to a skid.
HIS: R 5dr DSG Lapiz: Tech Pack: Keyless: 90% Tints: Pretorias: Rear View Camera
HERS:  GTI 5dr Manual DBP: Parking Pack: Car-Net App: 90% Privacy Glass. Ordered 05-12-15. Delivered 03-03-16
DONATED TO SON:  GTD 5dr Manual White: Nav Pro: Dynaudio: Winter Pack: Sport & Sound Pack: Rear View Camera: Park Assist. Ordered 19-02-14. Delivered: 07-06-14

Offline AlanD

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,946
  • MK5 2.0T 16v
Re: ESP
« Reply #12 on: 21 December 2010, 16:17 »
Correct, it never fully turns off.

It does however become very tolerant and you need be driving like a complete cvnt on the road or doing something very wrong on a track for it to really come into play.

This shows how tolerant it is on the track - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sosmxSVfg  - As you can see the car snaps back after a time as the electrics try and save it.

Offline VWKev

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,298
  • Please Support Non-Human Rights
Re: ESP
« Reply #13 on: 21 December 2010, 16:38 »
I 've often wondered what ESP does when there is no grip.

The first thing you are taught is never to hit the brakes on ice or snow if the car starts to slide, just try to steer out of it.
If the ESP detects a skid then the first thing it will try to do is start applying the brakes on different wheels to try to recover the slide.
Will this not make matters worse?

Maybe it's better switched off on ice and snow.


thats my take on it too.


GTI mk6, 3dr Manual (Yes Manual! If I wanted a Taxi I'd hail one, not spend £1500 on one), Candy White, Full Leather, Xenons, ACC, 18", RCD510 + Dynaudio, DAB Radio, Winter Pack, Luxury Pack, Fiscon Bluetooth Plus, Golf R LED's.

"Some say he drives a Shopping car, and that his car dent was actually a beauty spot....all we know is he's called Captain Failboat"

Offline VWKev

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,298
  • Please Support Non-Human Rights
Re: ESP
« Reply #14 on: 21 December 2010, 16:40 »
It's also to be turned off if you get stuck in snow and you have to roll backwards and forwards to get out.


GTI mk6, 3dr Manual (Yes Manual! If I wanted a Taxi I'd hail one, not spend £1500 on one), Candy White, Full Leather, Xenons, ACC, 18", RCD510 + Dynaudio, DAB Radio, Winter Pack, Luxury Pack, Fiscon Bluetooth Plus, Golf R LED's.

"Some say he drives a Shopping car, and that his car dent was actually a beauty spot....all we know is he's called Captain Failboat"

Offline Snoopy

  • Moderator
  • Serious forum addict
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,761
  • Geoff.
Re: ESP
« Reply #15 on: 21 December 2010, 18:51 »
Same here...never turn it off, although I must admit there are a handful of times it's cut the power (or TCS has maybe) coming out of corners hard on full throttle, where it's annoyed me by cutting in...but again, this is likely to be TSC not ESP and you can't turn one off without the other..
Thats TCS our leon does that it annoying at times (our leon does not have ESP)
Mk6 GTI  &  Mk1 GTI 
34 years of GTI ownership.