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Offline gizzywizzy

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #160 on: 17 December 2010, 17:36 »
Home for Christmas?

Sadly not...
I'll be sharing it with the other 60 or so unfortunates, stuck out here.

Somebody has to keep the Gas going into the line so you lot can keep your heating on 24 hours a day!  :grin:

Home on the 29th all being well.

Hero to many Ess-three.  All the best for the festive season, who's cooking the turkey (hope he's a good chef) :laugh: Keep up the good work and keep warm :smiley:
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Offline R32UK

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #161 on: 17 December 2010, 17:39 »
^^ :grin: :grin: :grin:

and the morale of the story is...... buy a skuda and pocket the extra £300 you would habve spent on winter tyres :nerd:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

after taking the Passat Barge out on sheet ice today - the skuda search starts  :laugh:

the skuda crew better be on their watch!! chuffs about!


i will be stealing the mothers clio :cool: :laugh:

Offline Ben Lessani

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #162 on: 17 December 2010, 17:40 »
Mine can't...

Correction, you can't

I have repeatedly asked you how you can take an inherently understeering (by design) car and make it oversteer...and you repeatedly choose to ignore the question.

I've not ignored, it, I've answered it hundreds of times - you can do it by deliberately altering the front/rear grip. I posted 10s of videos and links to further explain this.

As you choose to ignore the fitment of ESP and it's effect on a Mk6 Golf...

Because that wasn't the question you asked. But now you have asked, ESP can help prevent oversteer - but not break the laws of physics, ie. go put the trays under your rear wheels, drive round a car park and see if ESP saves you.

Seriously, stop arguing, its boring.

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #163 on: 17 December 2010, 17:42 »

What I'm trying to point out that in 20+ years of road, track and competition driving, I've never found a VW that lift-off oversteers...hell, I've been trying to induce lift-off oversteer on my Mk3 for years, to help kill the understeer...the Mk6 will not lift-off oversteer either - the ESP makes sure of that.


So, if I can't get my GTIs to oversteer in any condition, on any tyres,...maybe you can enlighten me?
You are obviously king of the oversteer.



just do what i do and over inflate the rears  :grin: :grin:

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #164 on: 17 December 2010, 17:43 »
^^ :grin: :grin: :grin:

and the morale of the story is...... buy a skuda and pocket the extra £300 you would habve spent on winter tyres :nerd:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

after taking the Passat Barge out on sheet ice today - the skuda search starts  :laugh:

the skuda crew better be on their watch!! chuffs about!


i will be stealing the mothers clio :cool: :laugh:

i wouldnt, imagine that if another transit hits you  :shocked: :cry: :sick:

in my 12 mile journey this avo i saw 3 shunts on the 2cm of snow laying on the iced over roads  :laugh: :grin:

Plastic everywhere  :grin: :laugh:

Offline R32UK

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #165 on: 17 December 2010, 17:47 »
tell me about it... left at 6.30am this morning, dry roads, no ice on screen and i was still sliding about like a puppy on laminate :shocked:


no more snow for leeds pls thx!

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #166 on: 17 December 2010, 17:48 »
tell me about it... left at 6.30am this morning, dry roads, no ice on screen and i was still sliding about like a puppy on laminate :shocked:


no more snow for leeds pls thx!

siggy quote worthy  :grin: :laugh:

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #167 on: 17 December 2010, 17:50 »
tell me about it... left at 6.30am this morning, dry roads, no ice on screen and i was still sliding about like a puppy on laminate :shocked:


no more snow for leeds pls thx!

siggy quote worthy  :grin: :laugh:

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #168 on: 17 December 2010, 19:56 »
I have repeatedly asked you how you can take an inherently understeering (by design) car and make it oversteer...and you repeatedly choose to ignore the question.

Tyre pressures, suspension stiffness, ARB, height of the front/rear.

I'm not keen on arguing with you Glen as I know you know a lot about cars in general, especially VW's, but I've managed to make mine oversteer on various occasions, both deliberately and accidentally.

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Re: ABS in the snow
« Reply #169 on: 17 December 2010, 23:59 »
My car could be hit by an airliner falling out of the sky after being blown up by terrorists. Should I avoid taking it out of the garage?
I've never heard of that happening either...but hey, you nerver know.
I'll have to hunt YouTube...there must be a video of it happening somewhere...

It happened.

Five minutes past seven in the evening, on Tuesday 21st December 1988, on the A74, about 15 miles north of the English border.





Plenty YouTube videos, though not of the actual impact itself for fairly obvious reasons.  About four cars were burned out.

Rolfe.

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