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Offline Dolly

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #10 on: 08 October 2010, 20:46 »
The CO pot was spot on so it would only account for no lambda. at idle it makes no difference as it runs a map, at full throttle it runs a map, its in between (most of the time) it runs rich to save melting a piston, it runs fine this way but yes it drinks fuel and youll lose power slightly due to over fueling but running it very occasional on a Sunday it was fine.

i binned the original manifold about a year but i fitted the engine so i didn't remember seeing the lambda, the intermediate pipe i speak off slides into the jabba system and is connected by a flange that floats on it so it doesn't matter when you fit the welded nut as the pipe will spin round, As long as it doesn't point to the ground it should be ok.

it might also be worth fitting the boost return pipe, the massive air leak past the TB will probably account for someone the "hunting" although the isv is a possibility but be careful finding one as they are pacific to g60. If not might even be worth fitting the new TB.
Other thing you mentioned on another post you changed the Plugs, the plugs in it were only a few mile old and iridium so quite expensive hope you replaced them with proper plugs and not standard cheap ones.

In regard to slight hesitation that was mentioned set the timing up, i never had a timing light so its set static TDC could do with advancing abit should free up some poke, if no light available advance it on the dizzy until you find it pinks then back off a nats will be tiral and error without a timing light though.

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #11 on: 08 October 2010, 21:30 »
Dolly you can take over this thread you know your car by the sounds of it? :wink:
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Re: Co pot
« Reply #12 on: 08 October 2010, 21:36 »
to be honest i wish i had the time to finish it but the prospect of buying a house and all that took over and it was only got to sit on my drive feeling sorry for its self. lol

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #13 on: 08 October 2010, 21:46 »
Fair play to you mate back then I thought it was going to end in tears, but once you get past the ECU and sensors its alright!
Credit where its due it was proberly 98% there, but I know that feeling of money and time.
I'm sure you will get your teeth into something else.
I just bought a 16V Atlas grey and taking my time on it nothing fancy just going to enjoy driving it at minimal cost  :grin:
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One question has the hall sender ever been changed?

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #14 on: 08 October 2010, 22:00 »
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the input.

Yea i fitted bosch super 4 sparks and have fitted the boost return pipe to the throttle body, one pipe goes onto the isv and the other is blanked, im guessing this is correct!?

Its strange as we have managed to resolve the misfire and it was just hunting when warm on idle, on a couple of occasions it has been fine even up to full temp but then i started it up on sunday and it started struggling almost straight away just sitting there!! it may be that we have adjusted the co pot out making the issue worse?
The blue temp sensor was replaced and yes when you remove it, the idle drops but holds at about 700rpm so this is working.

Ill have a look at the lambda plug tomorrow, Dolly did you say there is a 3 plug and a 4?? I would like to get the car running aswell as possible so would this be worth fitting?

Im just really keen to get this resolved as i want to start driving it on the 19th, its looking mint but running like poo!

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #15 on: 09 October 2010, 08:31 »
the super 4 plugs wont be as good as the iridium plugs.. theres a spare 3 pin connector hangning down above the gearbox and the 4 pin tucked in behind the airbox with long wiring, im convinced its the 4 pin connector for the lambda sensor.

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #16 on: 09 October 2010, 10:13 »
I did hear that cooler plugs helped with the knocking and pinking
TBH my rolling road chap who did my chip said the same thing to me can't remember what plugs they had told me to use to keep the detination down at WOT?

 

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #17 on: 09 October 2010, 14:21 »
Morning!

Just been out and checked and I can see a 3 wire plug for the lambda so I'll order a bosch g60 lambda and cable.
I just started her up and she was running very nice on idle just sitting there so I decided to go for a cruise ip and down the lane. It was ok to start with but then as it got warmer it was juddering and severe lack of power, got her back in the drive and the she wanted to die as it was hunting so I turned it off. This suggests it's only an issue when warm. Is this because the co pot is not working correctly?

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #18 on: 09 October 2010, 15:30 »
Right first things first  Did you test pin 1 & 3, if you did and got 180 ohms and when you adjusted the Co pot screw values didn't change the resistance then I would say yeah its gone! The reading should have been about 500-600 Ohms on the meter! You did check the temperature sender aswell right? Blue one should have read 180-230 ohms anything over 260 it needs replacing.
When its upto temperature pull the blue plug and see if the revs drop a bit this will let you know the ECU has gone into service mode. If it didn't it was proberly already in service mode  :grin:

Your down pipes should branch off to two pipes the lambda would be located just on that junction. You can't miss it it would have a thick cable leading to the lambda.
I would be very worried if there was not at least the broken lambda still stuck in the pipe!
If you can't find one then someone has been playing silly buggers and change the down pipes and forgot a Lambda should be there :laugh:

The only way I know is to drill a hole and weld up a boss nut that has the same thread head as a lambda.
It should be universal fit, can't remember pitch sizes or nut size TBH.
By the way have fun gettting the old lambda off its still there!

Did you check the Vac pipe from the ECU? It should be tight and EXACTLY 1 meter long to the bay!
 
Other sensors to check whilst down there!
Knock sensor check cable for cracks and brittleness due to block heat
Throttle switches make sure they click!

Good luck you have a bit of work to do mate! :smiley:
Jay


Like I said mate the ECU can only service one error sensor so the fact you have at least two down means it's only servicing the lambda and the Co is wrong!

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Re: Co pot
« Reply #19 on: 09 October 2010, 16:01 »
it never had servere lack of power or it never ever threatend to cut out, (sure the revs would dip and then recover but nothing dramatic)

did you fix the possible fuel pump relay problem then? ( meaning did you replace the fuel pump relay? )