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Offline sesterfield

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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #10 on: 22 January 2005, 17:12 »
My 1.3 Mk2 came with a red stripe on its grill, and was previously owned by 2 old ladies so I doubt they'd have added one :P

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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #11 on: 22 January 2005, 17:55 »
i could be wrong. so many golfs have been messed around with its not easy to tell anymore.

plus, one of the little old ladies could of smacked it into something and had the gril replaced.

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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #12 on: 22 January 2005, 19:53 »
plus, one of the little old ladies could of smacked it into something and had the gril replaced.

true, and mine (was) badged up with dodgey vinyl as a "country", maybe it was a dealership thing?

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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #13 on: 23 January 2005, 13:52 »
because all the parts can be swapped around and usually do end up on the wrong cars it's very difficult to tell if it's a gti. because of this I'll try and say which parts came on the cars when they were born.

4 light grill, like someone said before. None of the Gti's were born with twin lights.

n/s wing mounted ariel. 16v's had this relocated to the roof (and both my 8v's did too). All the rest of the mk2s had theirs on the wing

big bumpers. the last batch of mk2's had big bumpers, but the gti's had a deeper spliter compared to the drivers big bumpers.

drivers with big bumpers didn't have fog lights on the front. the hole was filled in.

the engine obviously. only the gtis had injection. the last run of drivers and syncros had 1.8 carb engines. 88 on onward 8v's had digipants injection. the 16v retained the k-jet setup until the mk3 arrived.

the 1.3's had 4 speed gearboxes. all the rest had 5 speed.

Black plastic arches. All GTi's came with them aswell as the last run of Drivers.

90 spec mk2s with big bumpers had extra skirts attached to the sils.

only g60 mk2s had g60 arches - funny that  :wink:

gti's had more 'sporty' seats which held you in round the corners.

all gti's had rear discs.

88 and onward 16v's had 256mm front discs compared to 239mm ones on the 8v.

Rear spoiler. All GTi's. Quite often removed for that euro look.

twin exit exhausts. only the gtis had them.

various gtis came with half smoked rear lights. mostly 16vs iirc.

the last run of mk2s came with 15" BBS and PAS as standard


Did I miss anything?  :grin:
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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #14 on: 23 January 2005, 14:07 »
The Mk1 GX had many of the GTI features, eg interior, dash clocks, possibly even the front lip, but had a 1.5l engine.
It could have a 1.8 carb engine, but that was only available in the Mk2 as far as I know (I had a 1.8 carb Mk2 GL), although it could be a transplant.

The mk1 Driver had a 1.3l engine, but the looks were pretty much the same as a GTI.

The way to tell if the engine is a GTI engine, is to look for the air box. If there is no air box, then it's just a carbed engine (unless someone's fitted weber carbs).
The Mk1 GTI engines had the air box to the right hand side of the engine bay next to the battery, where as the Mk2 (and Mk3) GTI engines had the air box to the left.

Here's a Mk2 16v engine: (note the manifold on the top of the engine saying DOHC 16v)
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=90&pos=1

Here's a Mk2 8v engine: (note airbox on the left)
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=327&pos=2

Here's a standard Mk1 1.8 GTI engine: (note the air box next to the battery)
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=254&pos=7

If the mechanics are good and the structure and bodywork are sound, and the price was right (leaving you enough to put it back to standard), then maybe it would be worth it.

I think those wings are going to be a problem, the grille and bonnet would be fairly easy to source, the plastic body kit would hopefully come off easily.

That grille actually looks like it's a Mk2 grille squeezed into place and adapted to have those extra indicators.
The bumper looks like it's (dare I say) from a fiesta.


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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #15 on: 23 January 2005, 15:28 »
the 1.3's had 4 speed gearboxes. all the rest had 5 speed.

Some 1.3's had 5 speed gearboxes. I think it was the 90 spec ones?


If it is an 87 car then surely it would have the smaller rubbing strips on the side, and also as its a GTI would have the red stripes on the rubbing strips?


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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #16 on: 23 January 2005, 19:43 »
whatever, if he's made that big a bodge on the exterior there is every chance that it'll be f**ked everywhere else. in my opinion! to rectify all the crap thats on that car would all add up. bear that in mind when you think of it as being cheap, it al adds up and i'd rather wait and buy a proper well maintained golf that buy a shed and try to turn it into a decent car. the old saying, "you can't polish a turd" springs to mind!
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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #17 on: 24 January 2005, 00:12 »
n/s wing mounted ariel. 16v's had this relocated to the roof (and both my 8v's did too). All the rest of the mk2s had theirs on the wing


16vs had a rubber blanking grommet on the wing.

however, only 16vs came with a beesting. 8vs never had them and were only added as aftermarket items.

half smoked rear lights only came on the campaign mk2, and later spec'd 16vs. along with the campaign colours and tri-stripe interior.

you did miss the placement of the badges, and the style of the VOLKSWAGEN and GOLF badges.

early pre 88 cars had VOLKSWAGEN on rear on the left hand side in caps. The Golf name tag was also in caps on the right. the later 88 cars had a VW badge in the middle, and an Italic Golf on the right. You can also spot the accident damage cars as when the pre 88 cars had rolled of the assembly line the rear panel was always the later 88 panel with the center badge. another damage repair bodge was to put the 16v badge on the rear in the wrong place! it should be on the right hand side of the GolfGTI name tag.

and if you want to get really dull, don't forget the side mouldings changed 3 times (at least). pre 88 cars had the GTI badge where the indicator went on the later cars on the front wing.

i can't think of any more external changes for the moment.

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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #18 on: 24 January 2005, 00:43 »
I didn't miss the placement of the badges as all the golfs badges changed at the same time and the original question was the identifiers of the gti.  :grin:
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Re: External GTI Identifiers on MK-2s
« Reply #19 on: 24 January 2005, 10:31 »
chill  :wink:


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