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Offline andykram

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VW in the US
« on: 18 August 2010, 23:11 »
I've just come home from a 2 week holiday in California where I had the gross misfortune to have a Dodge Avenger on hire. My God, this car was bad. It supposedly had 180 bhp but I've never driven anything so slow, unresponsive and with such bad handling in my life. But then again I've not seen anything other than arrow straight roads for 2 weeks so why bother with a tuned chassis?
Anyway, we hired a Jetta for a day before I got that Dodge thing and this came with a 170 bhp in line 5 cylinder engine. Automatic obviously. Now where does that engine come from? The only 5 cylinder engines I can remember are the old Audi ones. Incidentally, this Jetta starts at $17735 which seems pretty cheap.
As for our beloved GTis I saw 4 or 5 Mk 5s but only 1 Mk6 GTi, a carbon grey one like my own. It prompted me to have a look at the US VW website to see if there were any differences. Prices start around the $23.5k point, you get a 5 year powertrain warranty as well as the usual 3 year one that we get and you get 3 year's servicing included. Spec seems pretty similar. They get cruise control as standard (naturally) and some dodgy sounding stereo but that's about it. What really annoys me though is that you can buy one on 3 years interest free credit at the moment. Or lease one for $279 a month with only a $2300 down payment. Seems like we're getting robbed as usual since we're never likely to get low interest offers in a million years!!
Having said all that though, it's completely wasted in a country with no bends and where all you seem to do is drive from one set of lights a block or two to the next set of lights. God, did I enjoy going for a blast this evening in a proper car on proper roads!!!

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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #1 on: 19 August 2010, 09:08 »
Cars are dirt cheap in the US, but as you have to pay through the nose for a decent education and/or healthcare, it all evens out in the end.

They also give credit to anyone, often with teaser rates for the first few months/years, no questions asked. That's what sparked off the credit crunch :embarassed:

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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #2 on: 19 August 2010, 11:48 »
Cars are dirt cheap in the US, but as you have to pay through the nose for a decent education and/or healthcare, it all evens out in the end.
They also give credit to anyone, often with teaser rates for the first few months/years, no questions asked. That's what sparked off the credit crunch :embarassed:

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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #3 on: 19 August 2010, 16:20 »
A lot of American stuff has taxes to be added on top too, where as in the UK they have to advertise it as full on the road price. I'm sure one of our US friends will correct us on the true costs of the cars. Still a lot cheaper than over here though.
Looking at some of the Yank forums it seems to me their specs are a bit different and more limited in what options you can order, which makes sense really as the factory waiting times are already a joke never mind with a several week trip on a container ship added in.
At the end of the day VW have to compete with the much cheaper US offerings if they want to sell anything over there so the costs have to be in line with local market prices.

When I was in Orlando last month I only saw a few mk5s and one mk6 too. Mind you 80% of the cars in that area are hire cars.........
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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #4 on: 19 August 2010, 17:33 »
They have crap quality fuel over there also.. so probably one of the reasons everything felt soooo sloooow

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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #5 on: 19 August 2010, 18:11 »
They have crap quality fuel over there also.. so probably one of the reasons everything felt soooo sloooow

A country full of slothful obese people who cannot even walk or think independently. :sick:
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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #6 on: 19 August 2010, 18:13 »
A country full of slothful obese people who cannot even walk or think independently. :sick:

Not that we like to generalise on this forum :grin:

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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #7 on: 19 August 2010, 18:17 »
A lot of American stuff has taxes to be added on top too, where as in the UK they have to advertise it as full on the road price. I'm sure one of our US friends will correct us on the true costs of the cars. Still a lot cheaper than over here though.


You pay state tax 0-7% and plate fees $100-$1000 plus whatever the dealer tries to scam them on.
Because they have different state taxes they dont advertise OTR prices.
Your high car prices even out the losses VW has with the exchange ratio. For that we thank you.



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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #8 on: 19 August 2010, 18:21 »


A country full of slothful obese people who cannot even walk or think independently. :sick:

Seriously?   I thought I already proved the US/UK obesity ratio wasnt that far off.  We cant walk or think independently?   Cmon now we have alot more freedoms that the UK. We dont need 50 bazillion signs all over the place telling us what to do where to run and what doors to keep closed.
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Re: VW in the US
« Reply #9 on: 19 August 2010, 18:25 »
The VAG 5 pot is used in the Audi TT RS in Europe.

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