Right, apologies, I was very busy yesterday so had to type in a rush and obviously was confusing everybody hence had to abandon the thread for a bit before things got even more muddled. And it's not as if there isn't a certain amount of Wumming goes on in the mk6 section from time to time which I was trying to be wary of. I thought I'd covered most things in the first post which genuine mk6 owners would either be familiar with or not be bothered about. It's more bothersome for those of us who own another vehicle that dosen't suffer the long pedal travel and slow responses. This is a very mk6 GTI specific problem that I also noticed to a slightly lesser extent with my mk5 GTI previously. Maybe I didn't go into enough detail in the first post but I didn't want to write a bloody book on the subject.
So:
Steady on!
I was just saying that a resistor cannot cure Turbo lag which is what your last post suggested.
I think what you mean is it takes out the slck the drive by wire system seems to have over a proper cable throttle. My Polo TDI has a drive by wire throttle and it is a bit rubbish.
Nick
Yep, my bad as the Yanks would say. What I meant was the throttle lag had disappeared and I was trying to liken it to a reversed version of turbo lag, seemingly like a psychic turbo.
Trying to explain things when you're in a rush ain't good. Lesson learned, apologies for misunderstanding.
I've owned all manner of VW TDIs and DBW 1.8Ts and none have had this issue bad enough to bother me once re-mapped. It just seems more inherrant with the floor hinged pedal on the mk5 petrol models. I had a mk5 2.0 TDI some years ago and that didn't seem so bad but it never seemed as lively to me as my previous 1.9 TDIs.
I thought it was to speed up throttle response. I don't suffer from any turbo lag. I just want the car to be a bit more reactive. I suppose this means a re-map. Will happen soon.
See above. Re-mapping alone may be the answer for you, but I needed a re-map of the engine and throttle pedal to satisfy me!
What about fuel economy is there any effect on that? If it sort of does turn up throttle position of the pedal so does it make it like 10% throttle like 15% and so on what happens at 100% does it make it 150% throttle? I wonder what the ECU makes of that. I suppose pedal off is still pedal off mind.
Basically it amplifies any throttle input and means you get 100% throttle at about three quarters of pedal depression. I've not tried it but an educated guess would say the final quarter of pedal travel would now be redundant. Which if you read post #1 is what I want. The pedal travel is too long for me.
So yes, fuel economy will be affected if you make use of the vastly improved throttle response too often. But just like when you re-map, you soon ease off and adjust your driving style once the novelty wears off to take advantage of the improved dynamics without hooning around.
And finally to Wayne, yep, maybe I don't have any sense but hey ho. Someone's got to experiment a little. I did research this for quite some time (see post #1) before coughing up my hard earned and the company have been round a few years now. I've not read any horror stories. If I'm unlucky I may get to write my own though
Time'll tell.
You don't live too far away from me by the looks of things (Im in Devon) so if you want a demonstration of the issue that some of us believe mk6s have I'd be happy to let you see for yourself. The small amount of slack is very definately there for a reason, and that reson is likely to be some beaurocrat somewhere who's probably in the same department that insists the door mirrors are a funny shape that gives you blind spots. Insert your own anti EU Clarkson quote here to suit.
I had a Polo GTI 1.8t a few years ago. That had the complete opposite throttle response to the mk5 and more so the mk6 Golf. VW even made light of the fact in some witty adverts showing some bloke keep overshooting his parking space in his Polo GTI (there's a few more similar vein ones on youtube), so we know it's something engineered in to these latest generation cars.
For me, I'm no boy racer, I rarely use high revs but I do like a snappy throttle response and good mid range punch. If I end up with an issue in the future I'll be sure to come back and warn everyone.
