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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #20 on: 15 April 2010, 22:36 »
Quote from: p3asa on 15 April 2010, 22:05
p3eps what quality issue? The mike that came with my Fiscon is crystal clear.

Apparently if you fit the standard supplied Mic into the light assembly, the quality is pretty poor.
If you fit it on the A-Pillar or in a visible place, its supposed to be fine.
I want it hidden, so want to go for the OEM light fitting location.  :rolleyes:
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #21 on: 15 April 2010, 23:16 »
Quote from: p3eps on 15 April 2010, 22:36
Apparently if you fit the standard supplied Mic into the light assembly, the quality is pretty poor.
If you fit it on the A-Pillar or in a visible place, its supposed to be fine.
I want it hidden, so want to go for the OEM light fitting location.  :rolleyes:

I agree. I want it hidden also. :smiley:
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #22 on: 15 April 2010, 23:34 »
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #23 on: 16 April 2010, 13:15 »
Checked the Mic - its definately passive.
We plugged it into an amplifier, and we couldn't get it to make a noise!!  It must be HEAVILY amplified by the Fiscon kit.
Pluggin in an Active Mic instead would likely blow the speakers as it would pick up every whisper.  :nerd:

It looks like the Fiscon Mic made for inside the light fitting is our only option... but I'm a bit dubious if it will make the call quality any better than the standard one since its the same Mic inside a plastic housing  :undecided:
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #24 on: 16 April 2010, 14:34 »
Quote from: p3eps on 16 April 2010, 13:15
Checked the Mic - its definately passive.
It looks like the Fiscon Mic made for inside the light fitting is our only option... but I'm a bit dubious if it will make the call quality any better than the standard one since its the same Mic inside a plastic housing  :undecided:

I knew it was passive and that the active VW OEM microphone would blow the FISCON electronics due to its greater output. Could not FISCON design their product with an active microphone?

The FISCON Bluetooth is a Parrot affair which employs a passive microphone. I suppose this sort of configuration is easier to use with a variety of aftermarket systems. The Parrot system is also used by Pioneer and Kenwood.

I only wish the VW Bluetooth preparation was compatible with the iPhone and the BlacKberry.

Erik had a problem with the VW setup and its incompatibility with his iPhone. So he had to buy a Nokia smart phone in addition!

I have been told that with the passive FISCON microphone in the light housing, the sound quality is not very good, as this microphone is not an active directional microphone.

This is becomming a real pain.

One thing I am sure of: I don't wish to have the microphone hanging from the 'A' pillar.

And now, I really don't know how to proceed and I am also desperate to get a Sat Nav installed. :rolleyes:

PS: Maybe your electronics engineer could use some series resistance to reduce the output from the OEM microphone so that it is compatible with the FISCON. He can measure the voltage from the passive microphone for a 60 dB SPL input and adjust the output of the OEM active microphone accordingly. He can also measure the input sensitivity of the FISCON device and then enable the OEM microhone to be compatible with it.
Oh, deary, deary me!
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #25 on: 16 April 2010, 15:03 »
If you have (or are fitting) an RNS510 with voice control, it'll have the VW mic in the overhead console anyway, so if you want to use Fiscon you'll have to fit their mic somewhere else. There are output pins on the back of the RNS for taking the VW mic signal to the factory car kit, so if you use a factory VW/Skoda non-rSAP kit you should be fine. The non rSAP kit is this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-BLUETOOTH-RNS510-MFD3-MFD-RCD-VOICE-CONTROL-VER-B_W0QQitemZ170462594740QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item27b05cc6b4

http://www.my-gti.com/3/volkswagen-skoda-oem-bluetooth-install

I'm sure someone on here has fitted this and it works fine. The p/n for the module which works with the Mk6 is 1Z0 035 729 C.
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #26 on: 17 April 2010, 18:07 »
Well...

I fitted my Mic in the overhead light compartment!
Once I had it up and running, I called my house from the car park, and my missus said I was crystal clear.  I told her I'd call back once I'd re-assembled the dash.
I called her on the move, and she struggled to hear what I was saying  :sad:
I then went into the Mic Settings, and increased the gain and called her back.  Now I was very echoey.  I figured out I could adjust it whilst on the call, so fiddled a bit.  Sometimes it was 'ok', but it was never 'great'.
I don't think it helps that us RHD owners still have the compartment for the Mic above the left hand seat. 
My voice was clearer when I directed my head over that way... but its not practical to be looking left and up whilst driving  :rolleyes:

Looks like the choices are either to buy the other Fiscon Mic... or put the standard one somewhere visible  :sick:
I spend AGES fitting it into the light fitting and taking photos for a 'how to'!!  Shame it was all for nothing.
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #27 on: 17 April 2010, 20:20 »
p3eps:

Sorry to hear it did not work out. But you will have a solution soon.

I am pretty upset with the damage to the vinyl part of my rear bumper which somehow just appeared out of the blue, literally!
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #28 on: 17 April 2010, 20:51 »
Quote from: p3eps on 17 April 2010, 18:07
Well...

I fitted my Mic in the overhead light compartment!
Once I had it up and running, I called my house from the car park, and my missus said I was crystal clear.  I told her I'd call back once I'd re-assembled the dash.
I called her on the move, and she struggled to hear what I was saying  :sad:
I then went into the Mic Settings, and increased the gain and called her back.  Now I was very echoey.  I figured out I could adjust it whilst on the call, so fiddled a bit.  Sometimes it was 'ok', but it was never 'great'.
I don't think it helps that us RHD owners still have the compartment for the Mic above the left hand seat. 
My voice was clearer when I directed my head over that way... but its not practical to be looking left and up whilst driving  :rolleyes:

Looks like the choices are either to buy the other Fiscon Mic... or put the standard one somewhere visible  :sick:
I spend AGES fitting it into the light fitting and taking photos for a 'how to'!!  Shame it was all for nothing.

Thanks for trying mate, I appreciate it. When you say 'other mic' what other mic's do fiscon have ?

Are you now going to fit it along the door a-frame ?
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Re: VW Mic - Fiscon Kit?
« Reply #29 on: 17 April 2010, 20:55 »
Quote from: VWKev on 17 April 2010, 20:51
Thanks for trying mate, I appreciate it. When you say 'other mic' what other mic's do fiscon have ?

Are you now going to fit it along the door a-frame ?

Fiscon (Kufatec) in Germany do a Mic thats specifically designed to go in the OEM location.  The trouble is it costs 24 Euros, and 14 Euros shipping.  A tad steep to find out that its maybe no better than the original!!

I'm iin 2 minds whether to order one anyway... or whether to just move it to the A-frame  :sick:
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