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Offline VWKev

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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #20 on: 30 March 2010, 16:01 »
If you did then the supplying dealer made a big mistake as an employee I can only get 15%.

Be specific to help other on here when did you order it? If you ordered before price increase then you are protected and likewise the dealer is dont mistake that for extra discount.

It probably helped that my dealer is a client of ours. But still, my point is the same, I dont think there is any set amount of discount they can give, within reason of course.


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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #21 on: 30 March 2010, 16:04 »
Yes they could give 50% off a gti if they wanted. Your point is valid, if you got more then you are a lucky man and worth keeping that client : ) there will be some unfortunate people on here not getting as much but the car is worth paying for either way.
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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #22 on: 30 March 2010, 19:21 »
*****UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE*****

UK Car Broker £2430 less than Advantage, Stirling   :cool:
Coast2coast £1996 less than Advantage, Stirling   :cool:
Dealdrivers £2226 less than Advantage, Stirling   :cool:

Now contacted the dealer with these quotes.  Says he'll get back to me by the end of the day but is pretty sure that he can't match it.  All brokers are quoting for dealerships in the Midlands so would have a good drive back up the road.  Nice.  Also said that delivery would be July as opposed to my local dealer quoting end of Sept, however looking at previous posts, I think that this may be a touch optimistic.

VWKev, I particularly like your comment, "if you want to be nasty, you could always tell them to stop talking sh!te"  It may come to this...

EVO, what you said makes sense.  The thieving saleman stated that his dealership is only permitted to sell 12 per year.  Can't order/sell anymore afdter that.  However, I am starting to doubt this guys integrity  :angry:


As you're in central Scotland, it might help to know that my good deal was got from Verve at Bogside, near Wishaw.

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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #23 on: 02 April 2010, 08:32 »
Just to let you know the outcome....

Advantage Stirling reduced the price to £26,500, and paired with the generous trade in they offered, decided to continue with them.  Taking into account the trade in, broker fee, travel to the Midlands, etc, actually worked out a few hundered quid cheaper than the brokers.

HOWEVER, I had previously contacted Advantage to advise that I would be cancelling the car.  They advised that as the car had been ordered, I would lose my deposit.  Not the type to accept this sort of thing, I contacted Consumer Advice (08454 04 05 06, www.consumerdirect.gov.uk).  They confirmed that under the Consumer Credit Act 1974, Section 57, as I had not signed the credit agreement (or even had the finance approved!), the deposit should be returned.
As soon as this was mentioned to Advantage, they were falling over themselves.  Turns out they are charged a 2.5% cancellation fee by VW on the cost of the car.  Not sure the salesman should have told me that  :huh:  That also gave me an extra bit of leverage.  :smiley:

Overall, stand your ground, investigate the legalities, contact consumerdirect.gov.  They were really helpful.

Thanks for all your help and advice folks.

Just need to wait till September now.  The countdown has officially started....   :cool:



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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #24 on: 02 April 2010, 11:43 »
In all my years of buying cars I have only ever met one good salesman. Trying to negotiate a deal with VW is very hard. Rolf above recommends Verve in Wishaw. I went round 6 VW dealers inclouding Verve. Could I get a discount ? Nope. I negotiate prices in my job and consider myself tactful. The best I could do was get a better price for my trade in.
So when you start reading the amount of discount going around with other posters you really feel frustrated.
I'm really glad I did not go to a broker for the GTI  when I read about soopy's problems. I'm confidant my dealer will correct anything that is wrong having bought 6 cars from them.

Walking into a Mitsubishi dealer was a lot easier. I said I am going to buy an outlander elegance and that I have been to another dealer but I am not going to tell you his best price before you tell me yours. 1,000 off right away. Easy and I also admired his straight talking.

Went in to a VW dealer no discounts. Then the salesman proceeds to tell me to add this that and the next thing for the GTi as it will give you a better trade in when the time comes. Really as my Outlander wanted for nothing , every extra you can get was on it. Yet he offered me 2,500 less than the book say's you should get for your can. Baring in mind the outlander is minted.
I will now try to put this at the back of my mind as it's only two weeks away before I pick up the wife's and my pride and joy.
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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #25 on: 02 April 2010, 12:05 »
^ Exactly hindsight is a wonderful thing, I was actually shafted twice by dealers further away. I know Kev knows about the other one.  I would only deal with a local dealer from now on and not beleive what other far away dealers tell me about lead times etc. The sad thing is i think i found a good salesbloke local too, but he would not budge on price, aor do the lead time/order time i originally wanted PMSL (August order slot delivery before end 2009) he could not do. It would have cost me more from him but it would have arrived quicker i bet and been so much less hassle. Infact i feel like this maybe our last VW group product as a large family who has been loyal to the VWgroup brands since the mid 80s especially as VW and my dealer have not offered any good will gesture for the hassle/crap i went through month after month. :angry:
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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #26 on: 02 April 2010, 12:17 »
Good afternoon Captain and Happy Easter.

Two weeks to go for you before the delivery. Hope it is an easy and natural one! :smiley:

I am very pleased with my car and it is wonderful to drive.

So far, I have had/have the following issues:

(1) Mis-aligned bonnet. Now fixed and 100% to my satisfaction. It seems to be a common fault.
(2) Wind rustle at speed from the driver's door. Might need a new door seal.
(3) Speedo/Rev counter/Radio illumination off when the lights are on Auto mode. This seems intermittent and a bit annoying. The dashboard displays come back on once the light sensor turns the healights on! Wierd. MFD is always lit.

This is not too bad and I am sure these will all be fixed. Thankfully my Warranty Manager is quite a wonderful young lady.

I have got the sound system to sound quite decent now to my ears, so I don't feel the need to change the loudspeakers. I will be retro-fitting the Sat Nav unit and the Bluetooth kit soon.

Happy Holidays.


PS: Sorry, this post is a bit off topic. BTW, I got an overall discount of 8%.
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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #27 on: 02 April 2010, 12:45 »
Good afternoon Captain and Happy Easter.

Two weeks to go for you before the delivery. Hope it is an easy and natural one! :smiley:

I am very pleased with my car and it is wonderful to drive.

So far, I have had/have the following issues:

(1) Mis-aligned bonnet. Now fixed and 100% to my satisfaction. It seems to be a common fault.
(2) Wind rustle at speed from the driver's door. Might need a new door seal.
(3) Speedo/Rev counter/Radio illumination off when the lights are on Auto mode. This seems intermittent and a bit annoying. The dashboard displays come back on once the light sensor turns the healights on! Wierd. MFD is always lit.

This is not too bad and I am sure these will all be fixed. Thankfully my Warranty Manager is quite a wonderful young lady.

I have got the sound system to sound quite decent now to my ears, so I don't feel the need to change the loudspeakers. I will be retro-fitting the Sat Nav unit and the Bluetooth kit soon.

Happy Holidays.

am1w a happy Easter to you also.

Good to hear you are getting the small niggles sorted out. Are you on first name terms with the lovely lady yet ! !

Will look out for the Bonnet alignment when picking up the car. I take it you are best to put the bonnet up then down to see this ?

I used to use a VW mechanic for homers. He told me you should always wait about a year after a new model comes out before buying. By then all problems are usually ironed out. That's all very well but when you want into a new car like a Gti your heart tells yourself to go for it :wink:
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Re: Good deal/Bad deal
« Reply #28 on: 02 April 2010, 12:57 »
Hello Captain:

With the bonnet down, check:

(1) the gaps with the front wings are the same on both sides. This will probably need the bodyshop. Do not let a mechanic to do this. They are hopeless and I have learnt this from bitter experience.
(2) Bonnet edges and upper wing edges are exactly the same on both sides. The bonnet edges should be slightly lower for aestheic purposes. The rubber washers under the bonnet may be used for this.
(3) The gaps between the bonnet edge and the front grill should be consistent and the rubber seals on the bonnet should be in contact with the headlight housings.
(4) Open and close the bonnet a number of times to see if this settles down.

Mis-aligned body panels drive me nuts. I had to get the doors, wings and bonnet of my Honda Type R GT re-aligned!

All part of the 'fun' with a new car!

PS: I am off-topic again! :rolleyes:
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