8 or 16V - settled!

[VeeDubGTI16v]

the only place an 8v would be quicker is 0-30ish from standing, but if you are proper racing you are only gonna be under 4000rpm when you start so after that you can keep the revs high round corners and pull a lot harder out of them than the 8v. race cars have f**k all torque and the power is at the top of the rev range.

[Rain]

think this thread should be renamed My car is better than your car. 

[VeeDubGTI16v]

na na na na na

[rustynuts]

I wish my car was better than all your cars, but thats not true so i could not say that.

Just comments in my opinion, sorry if above if i rubbished other peoples opinions above.

[tinman]

Talking about a cars age is rubbish, there are plenty of 150k plus valvers out there pushing 150 bhp plus with just the WUR mod. That they are 18 years old is immaterial. They are no slower now than they were when they sold new (in fact usually they are quicker)

As for comparing my 1.9 to a standard 16v, why not, we are talking same power bracket and that puts both engines on a level playing field so the comparison can be made to show that the low down grunt of the 8v pulls my Mk2 away from similar powered 16v Mk2. Now if this topic was about standard cars then of course 16v's are going to be the best choice.

i did have a great long reply to this but i simply cant be arsed to tell you why comparing standard to non standard cars is a waste of time, especially when the thread is about standard cars in the first place.

[keefusg60]

Come on guys!
We all read and post on this site coz we love our Golfs. The mk2 Golf GTI was the hot- hatch of it's time, and 15 odd years on, it is still a great car to own and drive, giving both reliability and street-cred.
I have owned an 8v and a 16v mk2, and loved them both for what they were. I knew what I was buying each time, and made by choice based on insurance/economy/torque/bhp/styling/electrics.
If (when!) I go back to owning a mk2 Golf, I would love one of each!
(Sorry about the huge sig pics! I'm working on downsizing them)

[Gambit]

^^^^^^^ sort that f**kin sig pic out

[Volkswagavin]

Trouble with the 16v Mk2 is the K-jet fuel injection.  Not everyone can get to a Shell garage - there is only one of them in Cardiff.  An 8v will run quite well on normal unleaded unlike the 16v (unless you have it k-star'd).  Its also a lower insurance group, making the 8v an accessible and exciting proposal for many.

If you can afford the insurance and live near a shell garage, the 16v is the better option!

Also, being able to overtake on the motorway without changing down to 2nd is another plus for the 8v.

Anyway, has anyone tried putting a 2.0 16v from a Mk3 into a mk2 8v GTi?  I'm told the Mk3 uses digifant2 as well....

[VeeDubGTI16v]

Also, being able to overtake on the motorway without changing down to 2nd is another plus for the 8v.

16v will pull better than an 8v on the motorway

[Gambit]

late spec 16v's will run on normal unleaded they have a different ignition ecu to that of early 16v's

and early 16v's just need the timing altered to run unleaded.

also, there is no need to change gear in a 16v to overtake. the graph proves that itself. overtaking in 5th is exactly the same in an 8v and a 16v. if you do drop it a gear then you'll overtake quicker than any std 8v will ever be able to

to sum it all up, a std 16v will behave exactly the same as a std 8v until 4.5k then the 16v opens up while the 8v tails off