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Offline Jay

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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #30 on: 17 March 2010, 21:36 »
Quote from: weazgti on 16 March 2010, 21:36
Miss my 16v so much but i like 8v aswell,would just be nice if i owned a co meter and a timing light to set the damn thing up properly. Cant bring myself to take it to a garage and say "can you set it up as it says in the haynes manual/rubjonnys guide please"

Ask Mr Hell for some assistance, he'll give you some abuse for not slinging an ABF in it, but if you can work around the abuse I'm sure he'll be of some use :grin:
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #31 on: 17 March 2010, 22:26 »
98bhp?? Is that all? Quite a bit lower than I would have expected... Had a look for my rolling road print out but can't find it... Think I may have the torque wrong but bhp is definately right... Am I right in saying digifant is electronic ignition and injection whereas k-jet is mechanical?

Anyone know any cheap and easy ways to improve an 8v digis performance? Ie make it faster?
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #32 on: 17 March 2010, 22:42 »
No, 93.6 :wink:

That was at the wheels, well hubs to be precise, not at the fly. It was done on this:

http://tdi-plc.com/index.php?pge=C_dynocam
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #33 on: 17 March 2010, 22:50 »
Oh, even if it was a little low on power it still resulted in this quote:

Quote from: rubjonny on 28 January 2008, 15:00
I was taken out in a really early A or B reg 8v after I tuned it, and it felt quicker than my 1990 2.0 8v GTI!

And there's someone on here that will verify it's quicker than a 1.8t mk4, even when 2-up :lipsrsealed:
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #34 on: 17 March 2010, 22:52 »
Mine was on a traditional rolling road. Wouldn't have thought there was just over 20bhp between kjet and digi...
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #35 on: 17 March 2010, 22:53 »
I'm assuming the 115bhp from yours is at the flywheel though, NOT the wheels?
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #36 on: 17 March 2010, 22:56 »
No wheels...
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #37 on: 17 March 2010, 22:57 »
Are you 100% sure about that? :huh:
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #38 on: 17 March 2010, 23:06 »
0% transmission losses FTW.

K-jet's all about throttle response.  That's why it feels quicker than the Digifant, which needs to process the incoming data before it acts on it.

Go to later injection systems that can process inputs faster and that 'advantage' goes away.

Early cars feel fast due to less sound proofing and tat attached to them.  Weight loss in a car is the easiest way of improving performance: FACT.

Against the K-jet is a lack of closed feedback loops and protection, such as electronic rev limiters, knock control etc.  Both motors have stupid flappy airflow meters.  The K-jet one is just bigger and dumber.
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Re: 16v POWER
« Reply #39 on: 17 March 2010, 23:17 »
Quote from: Mew on 17 March 2010, 22:57
Are you 100% sure about that? :huh:

that's about right had mine tested in January with a new pipercross panel, s/s zorst, 4-2-1 manifold it put out 117.9 at the wheels the engines been rebuilt so not run in yet ;)
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