Help needed please

[hutch924]

EASY!!!

TEST DRIVE and figure it out for yourself

imo,
the st is good for power but had poor build quality and drinks fuel like a scotsman drinks alchohol and there are loads of them about

the Gti brilliant build quality has less power than the st but looks less chav and there are less on the roads at the moment

but as i said before

Give both a test drive

[p3eps]

For £20k you get a lot of muscle and although its kind of chunky, the car looks really nice. The interior also looks very nice!

Are blind people allowed to drive?! 

I don't know what cars you've had previously that you're saying the interior of a Focus is nice, but they clearly weren't up to much.  The Focus is renowned through most magazine reviews to have a terrible interior and a dreadful driving position!

You've posted on a GTI forum, so the likelyhood is that 99.9% of the people here will tell you the Focus is cr@p and the GTI is the best.
The best way is to decide for yourself and see if you can take them both out for a test drive... preferably on the same day.

The old saying is 'you get what you pay for' - and thats the case here too.

[B3n]

You will only get one answer here! 

I tried the Ford and have to admit I liked it! BUT I also have to agree with the negative comments about the interior and driving position (particularly the interior!).

I also found it too 'loud' to look at although if I was 25 (again) that may well be different!

Definitely try both cars!

[Fanters]

If it was down to cost I'd rather buy a Renaultsport  Clio 200 than an Focus ST, more fun also. I think the Focus ST is starting to look a bit dated and the interior is no way as nice as the Golf.  I've not got my Golf yet but the look and feel of the ones i've been in have been a class above the opposition, Better fuel economy, will age better than the ST, will still be worth something in 5 years time when the ST will certainly be almost worthless with it's poor fuel economy and even more dated looks.

There's an interesting looking new Civic Type R in Autoexpress today (could be good if you are prepared to wait).

Hang on i'm off to hide.

[keelaw]

Golf GTI all the way... you'll defo pull a higher quality of bird than with a Focus ST 

[PenguinGTI]

I bought my mk6 GTI in September. I looked at a lot of cars for different reasons. The ST appealed because it was another one a pretty big list of hot hatches. I also looked at the Evo 10 to get a feel for the difference in gearboxes (they have an SST system compared to DSG).

I'm going to ignore hardcore hatches like the Focus RS, Megane R R26 R (Type RR lol) and the Cupra R Golf R models.

Reading reviews the hot hatch sector can be best understood as follows.

The VXR/ Mazda 3 MPS sit at the top for power however neither have the smoothness of the golf in terms of power delivery.

The St and Leon Cupra sit in the middle.

The Civic Type R and the Golf sit at the bottom.

In the real world however each is as fast as the other. It's only on a track with two equally fast drivers that the cars will show any differences.

In terms of refinement the Golf is at the top with pretty much everything else below it in whatever order you choose.

I would look at it in terms of image. If you want a Golf, get a Golf. The Focus is not a Golf. If you are willing to live with a car which is not a GTI then the Focus is a good choice. I would take it over the Civic (although I think I'd take the VXR over the ST due to the ST's thirst).

At the end of the day though.... I still bought a GTI and I don't regret it. I would buy another one!

[ErikGTI]

My advice get that focus....o......by the way I have ordered my GTI....best car I could possibly choose...

[am1w]

Please get the Focus and end this thread, PLEASE.

[ErikGTI]

DO NOT write that car name starting with a Capital...there are people with feelings in this thread...

[am1w]

DO NOT write that car name starting with a Capital...there are people with feelings in this thread...

You are scary.
focus. :embarassed: