which is the best car the GTI mk6 or GTD 170 MK6 ???

[GolfTi]

I test drove both back to back, with no intention of buying either... for about 3 hours each.
I was always going to order the Golf R, it was just a way of testing a manual v's DSG.

The GTD didn't look quite as good as the GTI because the ride height was slightly higher and the exhausts don't look so good.  The GTD did have better looking wheels  
The GTI handled a bit better - probably due to its slightly lower stance.  Power wise, the GTI had a bit more, but I was surprised by the GTD and how much ooooomph it actually had.  People saying a chipped GTD v a GTI would beat a GTI are probably right - but its not a fair comparison as a chipped GTI would beat a chipped GTD!

In my opinion, a diesel car is always a second choice.  IF I was doing big miles, I'd feel like I'd HAVE to take a diesel for cost saving.  If this was the case, a GTD would be a great choice.  I'd always pick a petrol if it was feasible though, as I enjoy revving the t1ts out of it!!

It depends on your circumstances... big miles = GTD, low miles = GTI!
A BW09 car is likely to arrive in March... so I would hang on for what you really want.  Whats another few weeks wait?!?!

The most sensible comments i've read yet.  agree with everything you say.

+1   Saying that Iv'e seen a mk 2 GTI with over 400k on the clock so longevity is not an issue, just fuel cost.

[Snoopy]

Im dreading the day an R pulls up next to me

Why?
Just beacuse its a little faster, drinks more fuel, costs far more to service(regular haldex oil changes and also will need cambelt), costs more to tax, costs more insurance, looks little different to a base model and even has base model black mirrors, costs more, The R badge few people know what it meens, i could go on but i will be linched  
So its the model above so what. The GTI badge is known by everyone its a household name it has history and heritage.

[Steve30]

Im dreading the day an R pulls up next to me

Why?
Just beacuse its a little faster, drinks more fuel, costs far more to service(regular haldex oil changes and also will need cambelt), costs more to tax, costs more insurance, looks little different to a base model and even has base model black mirrors, costs more, The R badge few people know what it meens, i could go on but i will be linched  
So its the model above so what. The GTI badge is known by everyone its a household name it has history and heritage.

What do you think of the mk 6 gtd 170 snoopy?

[p3eps]

costs far more to service(regular haldex oil changes and also will need cambelt),

On a side note not related to this thread... should I take the £250 fixed price servicing then if servicing is more expensive?
I heard the rear diff needs serviced every 20,000 miles?  To be honest it'd probably take me 2 ¹/₂ years to reach 20,000 miles!!

[Snoopy]

^ I would. I would have if i was going to deal with this dealer again. I don't know if you can take it out with another dealer. Its something i may ask about.

[Snoopy]

What do you think of the mk 6 gtd 170 snoopy?

I actually like it. I did test drive one and it was a hard choice. Im no longer a boy racer, I got that out my system years ago with my first GTIs  So an extra tenth hear, and extra tenth there, and having to ring an engines neck is not really my thing anymore.
I did think the GTD was expensive for what it is.
Our other car was a TDI150PD till very resent, I was driving it for my commuter for the past two years and the torque is what puts a smile on your face day in day out and it can easily upsetting rev happy petrols. The extra 15-20mpg average over the GTI was good too.
The new TDI170CR is a great engine so much more refined and quiet than the older units and has a far better power delivery.
The interior of the GTD i think i like better than the GTI, i like the seat colour better reminds me of my mk1 GTI  black/gray colour interior. I also prefer the GTD exhaust layout.
The deisel particulate filter is one of the reasons i did not go for the GTD as i would have to drive it a reasonable speed consatntly for iirc about 15 miles every so often to clear it out is what i was told?
It was a hard choice i will tell you to pick the GTI over the GTD.
The only reason i went for the GTI was i have a couple mk1 GTIs and i fancied trying petrol again. No other reason really.
When people talk about performance differences they always quote 0-60 etc. I look at the more everyday figures i may use. For example 30-70 through gears for overtaking trucks. 30-50 in 3rd for getting past a car, 50-70 in 4th,5th for cars, and 50-70 for motorways. In these cases theres not a massive difference between GTI and GTD because the GTDs torque helps.

[devito]

p3eps....what rear diff?

[herbie911]

It depends what define as a better car?
For those who do not want to pay the extra £500 list price and running cost, the GTD is a decent buy. Personally I just go for the 140 TDI if my budjet is tight! More comfortable with similar midrange! If you want more mph, you can always remap it.

I cannot find a single magazine that rate the GTD as the best TD out there but the GTI got plenty of admirer.
GTI is an establishment like a Porsche 911. Been around for ages and often been use as a benchmark to beat when other manufacterer want to bring out something similar and better!

Most people do not know what you mean when you said I drive a GTD, Golf R, BMW 330d or Merc 320cdi but most people in the pub will know about GTI is a fast Golf!
I always want a GTI when I was driving crap cars during my teenage years. That's why I can justify spending £27000 on a GTI but not 26500 on a GTD!

[Captain Sensible]

I have been driving diesels for the past 15 years with a recent one being an Audi A3 Sport.
The reason I have ordered a GTI is because I want a real world drivers car. The petrol engine is far lighter than a diesel engine which is nose heavy. The fact my wife can get near the 40s with a light foot from a sports car is fantastic. I have wrote else where that I live in the country so can make good use of the GTI driving dynamics , however if I lived in a large town I would consider the GTD.

[R32UK]

Im dreading the day an R pulls up next to me

Why?
Just beacuse its a little faster, drinks more fuel, costs far more to service(regular haldex oil changes and also will need cambelt), costs more to tax, costs more insurance, looks little different to a base model and even has base model black mirrors, costs more, The R badge few people know what it meens, i could go on but i will be linched  
So its the model above so what. The GTI badge is known by everyone its a household name it has history and heritage.

hmmm.... no.

Just because the driver of the R is going to glance over and have the "bet you wish you had bought one of these" looks on his face. Deep down we both know* hes right :embarassed:


Even though I know he got ripped off