New Volkswagen car prices are now eye-watering

[Exonian]

I just specced a polo that would cost £21070

That's amazing! No wonder they say they expect the Polo to capture a lot of Golf sales, that's top spec Golf money to my eyes. I had an outgoing model Polo GTI 1.8T for a while. Great little car (with REVO) but considering it had all the factory extras except leather I thought that was expensive new at just over £17k. I got it 10 months old direct from VW for under £12k. The world has gone mad.

[Neil gti]

I bought a 6 mth old Mk5 R32 in July 07 for £25k
It was fully loaded with every option possible and i also had the original invoice in with the service book and that was for £34k
and that was back in Aug 06 ?


So are the New Rs and gti,s that much more expensive 3+ years on ?

I also paid £25.5k for a new Gti in 05 ?

[carl1]

^^^^ i payed £19995 basic price+ £145 for center armrest and highline computer in 05, so basic for basic its gone up around 20% for basically a facelift. i think a fair price to start at is 22k for basic.
I payed £23745 basic price + around 2k for leather,paint and center armrest for a R32 plus in december 05. So basic for basic its gone up around 25% for a engine that sounds like a sewing machine in comparision. I think a fair price to start at for the R is £26k.

[Neil gti]

^^^^ i payed £19995 basic price+ £145 for center armrest and highline computer in 05, so basic for basic its gone up around 20% for basically a facelift. i think a fair price to start at is 22k for basic.
I payed £23745 basic price + around 2k for leather,paint and center armrest for a R32 plus in december 05. So basic for basic its gone up around 25% for a engine that sounds like a sewing machine in comparision. I think a fair price to start at for the R is £26k.

fair comment looking at it that way it is 2-3k overpriced,
but people will still buy them, maybe not as many but Vw will prob still make as much profit and residuals should be good if there are not as many about ?

[carl1]

it depends really, all us in mk6 section would pay a bit more for a mk6 but we prob dont even account for 1% of gti owners or potential owners so only time will tell with wage cuts/freezes etc. I have always brought brand new gtis/R32s in last 5 years but the more i look at the price of the mk6 a good secondhand mk5 looks more atractive now as i never really had that option before because the massive difference perfomance/handling wise between the mk4 + mk5.

I honestly don't think Vw are selling many gtis in this country and don't really plan to for the mk6 as they are more interested in knocking out loads of lower spec models as that is their bread and butter in this climate especialy with scrappage scheme hence all the delays in mk6 gti deliveries.
The mk6 gti has been out now 8 months and ive only seen 4 on the road. Times have change drastically since the introduction of the mk5 gti and people vote with their wallet.

P.s i still might end up with a golf R 

[Radek]

I honestly don't think Vw are selling many gtis in this country and don't really plan to for the mk6 as they are more interested in knocking out loads of lower spec models as that is their bread and butter in this climate especialy with scrappage scheme hence all the delays in mk6 gti deliveries.
The mk6 gti has been out now 8 months and ive only seen 4 on the road. Times have change drastically since the introduction of the mk5 gti and people vote with their wallet.

Wrong!
VW's plan was to sell 2 GTIs per dealership per month. The long waiting list from August tells me they've done it. There are many ways to make money: sell a lot of cheap cars and hope to make profit because of numbers or sell fewer but with decent profit. UK has become an expensive market to sell from mainland Europe due to exchange rate, face it. And it's not going to change anytime soon. When the sterling falls below euro you'll see more price increases not just from VW. QE... Worked in Zimbabwe, why wouldn't it work here?

[carl1]

 Do you really think their is as much demand for a mk6 gti as their was a mk5 gti? They can raise them all they want but a lot of people who purchased a mk5 gti wont be upgrading to a mk6 gti and thats what mk6 gti owners are paying for as well as exchange rate. Like i said times have changed and no i havent got to face it i can choose not to put my money in a brand new VW
They do all that 2 cars per dealership crap when ever they launch a new model, 1 year from now and you will see them at car supermarkets.

[andykram]

Towards the end of the Mk 5's run there were loads of Mk 5 GTis at Motorpoint at vastly reduced prices e.g. leather and 18 inch Monza clad ones for less than £20k brand new. Admittedly they were impoorts but that wouldn't have bothered me. I would have bought one if I'd had the money at the time.
I suspect that (or a demonstrator/nearly new one) is the only way I'll be able to afford one in the future.
And since you could get an aftermarket RNS 510, Fiscon and Xenons fitted for less than £1500 yourself (and that's at an ICE shop and not buying stuff online and fitting stuff yourself, in which case it'd be even cheaper) you may as well trot off to Motorpoint in 3 years time when there are loads of base MK 6 GTis and do the rest yourself.

[carl1]

Their are already high spec gtd's at a car supermarket, cant think of the name at mo, will find later

[Exonian]

Towards the end of the Mk 5's run there were loads of Mk 5 GTis at Motorpoint at vastly reduced prices e.g. leather and 18 inch Monza clad ones for less than £20k brand new. Admittedly they were impoorts but that wouldn't have bothered me. I would have bought one if I'd had the money at the time.
I suspect that (or a demonstrator/nearly new one) is the only way I'll be able to afford one in the future.
And since you could get an aftermarket RNS 510, Fiscon and Xenons fitted for less than £1500 yourself (and that's at an ICE shop and not buying stuff online and fitting stuff yourself, in which case it'd be even cheaper) you may as well trot off to Motorpoint in 3 years time when there are loads of base MK 6 GTis and do the rest yourself.

That's why I went for a base spec ex demo mk6. No point in buying up a specced up second hand one from a dealer and paying 'new' prices. Much easier to pay second hand price for the car (saved nearly £3k) and add whatever extras after, not that I'm that bothered about adding any really as the car does everything pretty well as standard.
I'll probably be going for a Polo or maybe heading back to SEAT next car change depending on what's about at the time.