Revo vs GIAC vs Bluefin vs Custom Code

[nick30]

revo for me, you can adjust your settings yourself. ive also got a valet map for when the misses wants to drive it which cuts the boost (she doesnt understand how to drive safely and quicky!!) and when i go away ive got the immobiliser function. i spent a long time deciding on the route to take (same as phil) i came to the conclusion that the revo software fits me perectly and phil decided on superchips for the same reasons and we are both happy.

i would say do as much research as you can, and only go with what you feel comfortable with  

[GotTurboInside]

just a map with a hpfp and sports cat with less restrictive exhaust is all that's needed for around 340bhp

hpfp = high pressure fuel pump?  :embarassed:

[nick30]

just a map with a hpfp and sports cat with less restrictive exhaust is all that's needed for around 340bhp

for a true 340 on a decent RR you will need to do a bit more for that. full exhaust, hpfp, big intercooler and CAI are a minimum. although saying that people do get 340 on some of the less conservative rollers with just exhaust and pump. its a bit of a money pit really this number chasing!

[Hurdy]

It isn't just number chasing. I'm after the ultimate K04'd DSG car. I'm NOT particularly looking to completely strip it out and have a bare race car, I want sounds and some creature comforts too.
  BHP and LBFT figures are good for the banter, but putting in a good time on a 1/4 mile or a decent lap time is more what floats my boat.

GotTurboInside - Do you have a K04'd GTI or a K03?

If you are K04'd then to make 340bhp you'll at least need REVO stage 2+, which means HPFP (yes a High Pressure Fuel Pump!), Intake and Turbo-back exhaust. To keep temps cool I'd recommend upgrading the intercooler too.

A DSG with a DSG remap is easily capable of handling 340bhp. More importantly it is the torque which can destroy transmissions, so a car with 350lbft should be okay with DSG and a DSG remap. REVO and GIAC DSG maps are both rated to utilise the gearbox to safely handle 500nm (approx 370lbft)

[GotTurboInside]

It isn't just number chasing. I'm after the ultimate K04'd DSG car. I'm NOT particularly looking to completely strip it out and have a bare race car, I want sounds and some creature comforts too.
  BHP and LBFT figures are good for the banter, but putting in a good time on a 1/4 mile or a decent lap time is more what floats my boat.

GotTurboInside - Do you have a K04'd GTI or a K03?

If you are K04'd then to make 340bhp you'll at least need REVO stage 2+, which means HPFP (yes a High Pressure Fuel Pump!), Intake and Turbo-back exhaust. To keep temps cool I'd recommend upgrading the intercooler too.

A DSG with a DSG remap is easily capable of handling 340bhp. More importantly it is the torque which can destroy transmissions, so a car with 350lbft should be okay with DSG and a DSG remap. REVO and GIAC DSG maps are both rated to utilise the gearbox to safely handle 500nm (approx 370lbft)

Hi Hurdy, thanks for the info. Well I haven't got my hands on a GTI yet  I was deciding whether to get a used MK5 (roughly about 2 to 3 years old) or a brand new MK6. Most unfortunately for me here, as the car (New MK6) would cost you about $25,000 Pounds there, for me here, it'll cost me $130,000 Singapore Dollars which is about $56,000 odd Pounds after the currency exchange. You can buy 2 GTI's and crash test one. Its a huge rip off purchasing Euro cars at my place. Thus, I see myself settling for a used MK5 instead.  :embarassed:

I'm quite new to the Euro platform as I'm currently driving a Honda. And it being a Jap car, it basically became an experiment car! (although i got it of the showroom brand new and it's my 1st car). So like within 1 and a half years, I took it to extreme NA, to full race spec turbo . . . and now back to stock due to financial issues.  :embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:

I'm looking forward to Euro whips like VW! Can't say enough about them. The more I research, the deeper I fall in love with them. OMG!!! 

My apologies for the short side track! Back to the topic! 

I'll be very honest with you on this. I don't want to cock up and end up with a configuration I'll end up regretting!

1) How would I know what turbo it's running on?  :embarassed:
I'm assuming K04 will be better turbo, But,

2) Is the K04 the stock turbo on the MK5 GTI? Or is it the K03?
a) If the K03 is the stock turbo for the MK5 GTI, is it possible for me to see such figures?

3) Could you shed some light on this "Edition 30" please?  :embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:

Just like you, I'm looking to strip my bare, I'll use my car for daily driving, and the occasional aggressiveness as well. I'll be keeping this car for a longer time, so I really want it to "have some balls" as well.

Please be patient with me as I'm still learning the ropes.  :embarassed:

[Hurdy]

I don't know exactly what car is supplied to Singapore, but most standard GTI's came with a K03 turbo. The K03 with modifications will reach around 280bhp with full bolt-ons.

The Edition 30 and Pirelli Edition GTI's were versions of the MK5 GTI that had several upgrades from VW over the standard GTI. The main differences were that they utilised a larger K04 turbo, which with full bolt ons is capable of over 360bhp and similar torque. These "special editions" were mainly supplied to European countries, but a few did migrate as far as Australia.

The Standard K03 GTI has 197bhp (officially) as standard
The Edition 30/ Pirelli Edition has 227bhp (officially) as standard.

I deliberately say "officially" as some ED30's have seen over 240bhp standard and Standard GTI's over 210bhp.
The Edition 30 as standard is quite quick and Volkswagen Driver magazine did GPS based road testing on it and the car did 0-60mph in 5.6 seconds!!

 

[bacillus]

The K03 with modifications will reach around 280bhp with full bolt-ons.

Some can produce a bit more hp...   

[Hurdy]

The K03 with modifications will reach around 280bhp with full bolt-ons.

Some can produce a bit more hp...   

I was thinking about your car when I wrote that

[GotTurboInside]

hhmm . . . then in this case, I find it more practical and cost saving to get the MK5 GTI instead of the MK6.
And also as some have also mentioned that the MK6 is merely a facelift of the MK5! Although some slight adjustments like a better fuel pump, 10 more BHP (which IMO i find it ridiculous) and a little change in the design of the front bumper!

Can k03 be swapped for the k04 turbo?
Any adverse side effects expected?

Because if the Edition 30/Pirelli uses a k04 turbo and the rest are kept the same like the Standard,
then,

Wouldn't be the "same" if I had the Standard, But swapped it for the k04 and do a remap?

[Hurdy]

hhmm . . . then in this case, I find it more practical and cost saving to get the MK5 GTI instead of the MK6.
And also as some have also mentioned that the MK6 is merely a facelift of the MK5! Although some slight adjustments like a better fuel pump, 10 more BHP (which IMO i find it ridiculous) and a little change in the design of the front bumper!

Can k03 be swapped for the k04 turbo?
Any adverse side effects expected?

Because if the Edition 30/Pirelli uses a k04 turbo and the rest are kept the same like the Standard,
then,

Wouldn't be the "same" if I had the Standard, But swapped it for the k04 and do a remap?

Yes a K03 to a K04 is a relatively easy swap compared with going big turbo, but you would need quite a few bolt on bits