7 year old 911 turbo or new GTI?

[Jay]

Like A7, I'd have to have a family car as well if I chose the Porka. I know I wouldn't have much of a fight with the missus if I said we're getting a Porka 

[SilverChariot]

Test drove second-hand 996 C4S and 997 C2S before deciding on the Golf R.

Amazing cars - an itch I will no doubt scratch in the future!

But, not really fair to compare 7 year old car with new car. Running costs on the 911 would be significantly higher, but depreciation would be significantly lower. I did a spreadsheet and whole life costs over 3 years would be about the same for both a 5 year old 997 C2S and a brand new Golf R.

However, I prefer the exclusivity of the Golf R (911s are pretty common round me) and the extra practicality. Also, like the peace of mind of a brand new car.

[percymon]

Prices have risen steadily for the last 6 months, you'd be lucky to find any 996tt fir under £34k these days, unless it's tat. Depreciation probably £5k in thenext 3 years compared to £11k on a GTI but you'll need the difference in running costs. Tyres £800 every 15k miles, servicing £1k pa without any extras. Brakes are about £500 diy, £900 at an indi and£1400 at an OPC. Great cars, very useable( I have friends with two small children that havedone 4000 mile euro touring/camping/ 'ring  holidays with avoid bit of planning and packaging) but remember it's a £80k sportscar and parts and running costs reflect that.

[Egbutt Wash]

Trade in a 2002 996 and you'll be offered £24,500 by Parker and Parker in Kendal.  I know 

[SilverChariot]

Here are the figures I came up with (over 3 years):

	2005	New	2008
	997 C2S	VW Golf Mk6 R	VW Golf Mk5 R32
Purchase price	£40,000.00	£34,000.00	£21,000.00
Residual value	£30,000.00	£17,000.00	£12,000.00
Depreciation	£10,000.00	£17,000.00	£9,000.00
Insurance	£2,400.00	£1,500.00	£1,500.00
Servicing	£1,000.00	£250.00	£500.00
Warranty	£4,050.00	£-	£500.00
Tyres	£3,000.00	£1,000.00	£1,000.00
MPG	20	35	30
Miles	30,000	30,000	30,000
Fuel Price	£1.10	£1.10	£1.10
Fuel Cost	£7,500.90	£4,286.23	£5,000.60
Total Cost	£27,950.90	£24,036.23	£17,000.60
Yearly Cost	£9,316.97	£8,012.08	£5,666.87

[mac7]

Here are the figures I came up with]

Well now you've got me looking at used 997's! Seriously though, I'd love a 993 C2S as a weekend project/track car. But as a daily I like to drive something less conspicuous.

[Hurdy]

I've been looking at some 996 Turbo X50's and haven't yet found one in a condition I'd be happy to sink my money into.

Last one I looked at needed about £8k of servicing/ work doing to it just to bring it up to par

The plus side is that the X50 version is equivalent to the ED30 on a GTI and remaps straight to 600bhp

The temptation of a Golf R is still at the back of my mind though

[percymon]

Trade in a 2002 996 and you'll be offered £24,500 by Parker and Parker in Kendal.  I know 

about right , they would no doubt just move t on within the trade. Had it been a few years newer then they'd put it out on the forecourt for £8-10k over trade-in price.

[Ess_Three]

Great cars, the 996...just don't think you can run one on a budget.
I wouldn't have run mine without the Porsche Extended Warranty (£1350 for a C4S) which also meant keeping up the PSH, but it was sublime to drive...just not exactly fluid tight!

It's an itch I had to scratch...people tell you that you can run one everyday...I found that you couldn't...
And if it goes wrong, you are looking at some very big numbers to make it right.

The interior may well be poor (it is!) but that matters not one bit when you actually drive it.

Worth doing though...just not sure I'll do it again in a hurry.

 

[herbie911]

If you guys fancy a 911, save up for the the late 997 gen 1 or gen 2. (The interior quality is leagues ahead when compare with 996) You can drive these car everyday (My boss does in his 997 Turbo) but you need to be covered by a very comprehensive warranty. Any mechanical breakdown (Clutch, gearbox), expect 4 figures bill! If you kerb the Carrera Sport 19s and fancy a new one from your local Porsche centre-£850 exc. tyres!

When they brought out the 986 boxster in 1996 and 996 in 1997, Porsche was in deep crisis. It tells when you compare the cars they replaced---993, 968(These car got interior build like a tank). When they brought out the 997 and 987, they are one of the most profitable car company in the world. They got money to improve everything wrong about with the 996!

The only 996 I will buy is the 996 GT3 (2003 model). Most road tester rate it as one of the best 911 ever. The engine block originate from the Le mans race car in 1997 and had been proven to be very reliable. Although there is not much electric gizmo in the car, this means less thing that will go wrong!