Golf R

[Horney]

Not driven a MKII in anger then?

nick

Yeah well they didn't call the 205 GTI "The Widowmaker" for nothing.

I used to be into Minis and they're also very easy to provoke into lift off oversteer and while admit the MKII isn't as easy as the 205 or the mini it's still pretty lively when you provoke it.

Nick
Not driven a 205 GTI? 
That's lift off oversteer...My Mk3 GTI will lift off oversteer if you provoke it, as a Mk2 will...but not with the twitch of a toe that the 205 would.
The Golfs have a rock steady rear end next to things like that.

[Ess_Three]

Yeah well they didn't call the 205 GTI "The Widowmaker" for nothing.

I used to be into Minis and they're also very easy to provoke into lift off oversteer and while admit the MKII isn't as easy as the 205 or the mini it's still pretty lively when you provoke it.

Nick

I never found the 205 bad...you just had to know it would do it, and keep your foot in.
Never had a problem.

I never knew Minis would lift off oversteer either!

[Horney]

Yeah well they didn't call the 205 GTI "The Widowmaker" for nothing.

I used to be into Minis and they're also very easy to provoke into lift off oversteer and while admit the MKII isn't as easy as the 205 or the mini it's still pretty lively when you provoke it.

Nick

I never found the 205 bad...you just had to know it would do it, and keep your foot in.
Never had a problem.

I never knew Minis would lift off oversteer either!

There was a fella named John "Smokey" Rhodes (Or Roads, can't remember the spelling!) who raced minis in Touring Car int he 60's. He discovered he could carry more speed through the bends if he provoked lift oversteer in the mini. He went on to beat pretty much everything out there and that's how he got his nickname. The man is a legend







Nick

[Ess_Three]

Hee-hee! 

[Horney]

Check out his gangster lean! Had no one thought of bucket seats back then? Ha ha.

nick

[Ess_Three]

Check out his gangster lean! Had no one thought of bucket seats back then? Ha ha.

nick

Lowbacks...yeah baby!

[Horney]

I had low backs in one of mine and they looked mazing but they were rubbish for support.

This one of mine had proper buckets!



Anyway back on topic. MK6 R mmmm nice!

Nick

[mac7]

^^^
Cool mini. 

I dont get why they have felt the need to have a "new system" if that is the only benifit. It only took a maximum of 15 degree rotation(spin) before torque was transfered to the rear wheels anyway.

When I drove that R32 last week I have to say I could feel the balance of the car changing mid-corner as it shunted drive to the rear, which felt a little unnerving until I realised what was going on - the quicker reaction of the new haldex will reduce this.

[Hairy Porter]

It looks like it will not need any extras, I wonder if they offer xenons as a delete option?

[R32UK]

^^^
Cool mini. 

I dont get why they have felt the need to have a "new system" if that is the only benifit. It only took a maximum of 15 degree rotation(spin) before torque was transfered to the rear wheels anyway.

When I drove that R32 last week I have to say I could feel the balance of the car changing mid-corner as it shunted drive to the rear, which felt a little unnerving until I realised what was going on - the quicker reaction of the new haldex will reduce this.

It can be... just takes a little getting used to. The quicker reaction will be welcomed, but it just sounds like they are hyping it up a little too much. As it was pointed out earlier the term "in extreme cases" is what should not be overlooked.