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Re: Golf R
« Reply #90 on: 22 September 2009, 11:32 »
Have to agree. VW will have difficulty justifying the price of this car after the comparatively small premium for an R32 - and that car was further removed from a GTI than the R is, thanks to its engine. Plus this car is essentially a premium-market Audi re-skinned in a lower segment VW. Surely they can't price it above the S3? However, both VW and Audi have been positioning themselves higher up the prestige ladder over the years.

I know Audi were able to put a huge premium on the RS4, RS6 etc but those cars had huge performance improvements over their run-off-the-mill siblings and have a better premium image to boot. The Golf just doesn't and the Golf R is not far removed enough from the GTI to warrant an extra £10K.

Thanks to our wonderful socialist leaders the Euro exchange rate is all f**ked up at the moment but I hope VW UK will not price this car much over the rumoured £28K. After all, in the US it sells it's cars for peanuts compared to here.

I think VW got seriously burned with the oversupply of the Mk5 R32 (remember the 20%+ discounts on new at the end of 2008). Rumours are only a 500 allocation of the Mk6 R for 2010. Supply and demand dictates they can charge a higher price.
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #91 on: 22 September 2009, 11:52 »
I think VW got seriously burned with the oversupply of the Mk5 R32 (remember the 20%+ discounts on new at the end of 2008). Rumours are only a 500 allocation of the Mk6 R for 2010. Supply and demand dictates they can charge a higher price.

I'm sure they did get stung with the R32 - again, in part thanks to the government and it's big car tax. You are right about the supply and demand equation and there is little on offer from other manufacturers in direct competition to the R. I'd happily pay £35K for it if it had the TT-RS 5 cylinder engine.
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #92 on: 22 September 2009, 14:38 »
I do like that Rising Blue.  I suspect I'd have had that on my GTi if it had been an option.

The Blue Graphite looks like Carbon Grey until the sun comes out!

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #93 on: 23 September 2009, 12:23 »
Those of you who say that the real issue affecting the price of the GTI and R models is the exchange rate are, of course, absolutely right. The only way VW UK can get around the expected high price of the R is by offering more standard equipment. So while the R will be more expensive, it should come well loaded.

In Germany, the R gets xenons, park assist without camera, 18" alloys etc. I am interested to see what we'll be offered, but suspect that the UK will get ACC thrown in too. The base price I've seen is £28,500. So if you want a DSG version with leather and Satnav, then I reckon you'll be looking at £32,500. That actually compares quite well to a fully loaded standard GTI, which with everything is around this price!

Those of us who bought VR6's in 1992 also winced at the price back then (£19,600). But that car was still comfortably serving up driving thrills 10 years later. The BMW Z3 I replaced it with was in no way a sports car, so then I bought a BMW M3 instead at £42K. Although monstrous in performance terms, it proved to be unreliable, expensive and difficult to live with as a daily driver. (People never let you out when turning onto main roads!) So I'm coming home to VW and frankly, I can't wait.

BTW, this new AWD system sounds as if it's going to be very good. in my book, that alone makes the R a worthwhile step-up from the GTI. 

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #94 on: 23 September 2009, 21:20 »
Yes but you get all that and more on an Audi S3 for less at retail and far less at the large discount prices you can get them at making the golf look very expensive in comparison its not like one has the exchange rate problem and the other does not :wink:. The proof i guess is in how different if any they drive.
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #95 on: 24 September 2009, 00:39 »
Yes but you get all that and more on an Audi S3 for less at retail and far less at the large discount prices you can get them at making the golf look very expensive in comparison its not like one has the exchange rate problem and the other does not :wink:. The proof i guess is in how different if any they drive.

But S3's are nasty.

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #96 on: 02 October 2009, 10:32 »
Yes but you get all that and more on an Audi S3 for less at retail and far less at the large discount prices you can get them at making the golf look very expensive in comparison its not like one has the exchange rate problem and the other does not :wink:. The proof i guess is in how different if any they drive.

But S3's are nasty.


Yes, and according to Clarkson & Co, all Audi drivers are c*cks!!!!  :evil: :embarassed: :wink:

I've test driven both and somehow, the Golf, especially 5-door versus Sportback, feels 100 times better. Head says Golf; heart says Golf. So Golf it will be.

BTW, I think black for the R, which does indeed tend to hide its go faster bits, is very subtle in a Q-car kind of way. I like that. perfect for people who like to speak very softly but carry a big stick!
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #97 on: 02 October 2009, 18:14 »
R for me.
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #98 on: 03 October 2009, 08:19 »
Some Golf R stuff starting to trickle out onto the German Volkswagen website:
http://www.volkswagen.de/vwcms/master_public/virtualmaster/de3/modelle/golf/golf/ausstattungslinien/r.html
http://www.volkswagen.de/vwcms/master_public/virtualmaster/de3/modelle/golf/golf/zahlen___fakten/daten.detail.0.12.html
http://www.volkswagen.de/vwcms/master_public/virtualmaster/de3/modelle/golf/golf/zahlen___fakten/ausstattungsvergleich.variants-0_5.html

You can translate to English (badly) using this:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t#

Rumour is Golf R will be on German configurator on Monday.

Also, the German configurator for the Golf GTI shows the LED tail lights as standard. :cool:



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Re: Golf R
« Reply #99 on: 03 October 2009, 09:14 »
Good find!
I read somewhere last night that WE (UK!) would be able to order the Golf R from next week.  I don't know if there is any truth in this, but I do hope so!  If I could get it before the end of the year, then I'm likely to save about £1000 with the new VAT rate!

Its a bit of a shame these 'exclusive' rear LED lights are making their way onto the GTI already.   I thought they'd have waited a year or so.
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