Author Topic: 8v vs 16v torque debate  (Read 4072 times)

Offline Gambit

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8v vs 16v torque debate
« on: 14 September 2004, 16:48 »
maybe this will put an end to it



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« Last Edit: 14 September 2004, 16:50 by Gambit »

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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #1 on: 14 September 2004, 16:53 »
Lol ... we still going on about this ??? :o ;D

I'd like to see what a chipped 8v running on Optimax would do compaired to the 16v ??

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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #2 on: 14 September 2004, 17:08 »
Surely you'd have to compare it to a chipped 16v running optimax  :P

Interesting graph, never really took much interest in the 8v\16v debate (lets face it 20 valves and a turbo dominate  ;D ) but i never thought the claims of higher low down torque figures on the 8v were true, you live and learn ! Upto almost 3k rpm too, impressive.

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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #3 on: 14 September 2004, 17:11 »
std against std ;)

im just putting the final nail in the coffin of those that say 8v's have more torque low down than 16v's

that graph shows they dont, they are more or less equal until 3k then 8v tails off & 16v takes off ;D


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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #4 on: 14 September 2004, 17:15 »
Just to ask a question, is there any/much difference in the gearing between an 8v and a 16v or do they run the same box and ratios?

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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #5 on: 14 September 2004, 17:16 »
I think I'd be right in saying that the 16v runs a closer ratio box with a lower ratio 5th than the 8v, correct me if I'm wrong guys.


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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #6 on: 14 September 2004, 17:20 »
yep 16v's are slightly more close ratio

8v's are more or less the same except for slightly longer 2nd & 5th gears

a 16v box with an 8v 5th gear is what you want

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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #7 on: 14 September 2004, 17:21 »
Yup - shame you had to go to such lenghts to prove the point !!

As for a chipped 16v - it's not possible to do so. ?;D

I'd love to see both car's again when they're 'loose' - I'm sure the differences would be the same, but the power figures seem to climb for both ?;D

A few 8v's made it well in to the 120bhp area in the AMD rolling road session, if the same goes for a stock 16v then 150bhp for a stock engine is fecking gr8 !


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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #8 on: 14 September 2004, 17:24 »
lol maybe i should make it a sticky all on its own with the title "16v are better than 8v fact"

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Re: 8v vs 16v torque debate
« Reply #9 on: 14 September 2004, 17:26 »
Dam u snobby 16v owners  ;D


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