The dreaded dervs....

[ashw831]

I think mine handles really well, i can keep up with most things on the winds (if they dont leave me on the flat) and i dont have a rear arb...yet

Try driving a standard Ford Focus. A far more interesting drive.

well i was unsure of what to get next, have looked at both the st170's and really stretching myself out and the possibiltiy of the rs, there is allsorts i want s3, leon cupra, ibiza cupra, but i thought would see what the out come was from asking about the derv golf as i have seen pople raving about them on here. so i am very open minded atm.... 

[Wurzel]

The Leon diesel is supposed to be quite good, according to Honest John:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=361

mk4 Golf is given 2/5 (except the R32 which has totally reworked suspension and is probably more similar to an Audi TT than a Golf)

[tg1]

try a corolla tsport? Avoid the supercharged compressor though

[northeast_gti-t]

I think mine handles really well, i can keep up with most things on the winds (if they dont leave me on the flat) and i dont have a rear arb...yet

Try driving a standard Ford Focus. A far more interesting drive.

is it i had a zetec model mk1 before i got my 1.8T and tbh i thought the ride was boring  maybe the mk4 doesn't handle the same as a focus in factory spec but like others have said a few upgrades to the golfs suspension and then it improves considerably yes its cost you a few quid to do it but having owned/driven the focus i would have my modded 1.8T any day over a sh1te focus!!!

[Wurzel]

I think mine handles really well, i can keep up with most things on the winds (if they dont leave me on the flat) and i dont have a rear arb...yet

Try driving a standard Ford Focus. A far more interesting drive.

is it i had a zetec model mk1 before i got my 1.8T and tbh i thought the ride was boring  maybe the mk4 doesn't handle the same as a focus in factory spec but like others have said a few upgrades to the golfs suspension and then it improves considerably yes its cost you a few quid to do it but having owned/driven the focus i would have my modded 1.8T any day over a sh1te focus!!!

The Focus was well known for being the best handling car in its class. It has a better rear suspension than the Golf - fully independent. Only thing bad about it is oit looks a bit sh!t and boring. But to drive it knocks the spots off the Golf.

[jeynesey]

Ive been debating a derv aswel 

[AlanD]

Wash your mouth out jeynesey ! FFS !

[Adam]

Ive been debating a derv aswel 

Lol few months time and I will be in one

[AlanD]

/holds his head in his hands

[jeynesey]

Wash your mouth out jeynesey ! FFS !

Would get a derv and a mk2