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Offline AlanD

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #60 on: 16 July 2009, 17:28 »
Id take what Egbert Nosh says with a pinch of salt :D

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #61 on: 16 July 2009, 18:46 »
Just to clarify for those of you who dont know....

the 1984cc engine is not in fact the 1984cc ‘TFSI’ engine found in the mk5 GTI but instead the new 1984cc ‘TSI’ engine from the Scirocco. It’s got an extra 10bhp over the mk5 (and the Scirocco for that matter), taking the new GTI up to 207bhp between 5300 and 6200rpm. Peak torque remains at 207lb ft but arrives fractionally earlier at 1700rpm and is held all the way to 5200rpm.

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #62 on: 16 July 2009, 18:54 »
Just to clarify for those of you who dont know....

the 1984cc engine is not in fact the 1984cc ‘TFSI’ engine found in the mk5 GTI but instead the new 1984cc ‘TSI’ engine from the Scirocco. It’s got an extra 10bhp over the mk5 (and the Scirocco for that matter), taking the new GTI up to 207bhp between 5300 and 6200rpm. Peak torque remains at 207lb ft but arrives fractionally earlier at 1700rpm and is held all the way to 5200rpm.

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You sure about that fella? I thought the MKVI engine was different to the 'roc?

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #63 on: 16 July 2009, 19:13 »
Just to clarify for those of you who dont know....

the 1984cc engine is not in fact the 1984cc ‘TFSI’ engine found in the mk5 GTI but instead the new 1984cc ‘TSI’ engine from the Scirocco. It’s got an extra 10bhp over the mk5 (and the Scirocco for that matter), taking the new GTI up to 207bhp between 5300 and 6200rpm. Peak torque remains at 207lb ft but arrives fractionally earlier at 1700rpm and is held all the way to 5200rpm.

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You sure about that fella? I thought the MKVI engine was different to the 'roc?

tbh im not sure about the rocco, but know that it is definately different from the mk5. Source was Evo so I expect them to know what they are talking about :smiley:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #64 on: 16 July 2009, 19:44 »
I think it's different from the Roc but apparently the MKVI lump is the EA888 or something like that? Revo said that engine has been used in the USA for the last year or so in Audis. I think that's what he said.

Vague or wot eh? :grin:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #65 on: 16 July 2009, 20:07 »
You will find that over longer journeys the start up doesnt make that much difference... but in winter the car will run on higher fuel (choke) for a slightly longer period. Where as in summer it will be up to full operating temp in little or no time at all.

Not sure about the rest of the guys on here but the decrease in performance on a warm summers day is very noticable.. in fact if I remember correctly there was a discussion about it over on the MK5 board not so long ago.

I can well imagine that in winter, where I used to live, there were weeks when my car wouldn't warm up at all.  (My neighbour who was an RAC patrolman said he thought I'd have trouble with my engine because of that, but it never happened.)  That could well explain the much poorer economy at that time.

I've never been aware of a loss of performance in the summer though.  On the other hand, I don't thrash my car.  I don't think the Peugeot has ever been near the red line in its life.

So, if 98 really does improve performance, is there a case for using it in summer only?

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #66 on: 16 July 2009, 20:50 »
I've never been aware of a loss of performance in the summer though.  On the other hand, I don't thrash my car.  I don't think the Peugeot has ever been near the red line in its life.


Only really applies to cars running turbos.

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #67 on: 16 July 2009, 20:58 »
Well, there you go.  Had the car over 11 years and have no clue if it has a turbo or not.

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #68 on: 16 July 2009, 20:58 »
lol I didnt have one ;)

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #69 on: 17 July 2009, 07:22 »
i suppose there is no point in using it every now and then,sounds like you don`t get the benefits unless you use it all the time.

Now and again is fine.  You never feel any power loss with the higher octane stuff.  You sometimes do with the 95 RON, but not often enough to justify the extra trouble and cost, unless you have some special roads.

You automatically knew this 'power loss' was the petrol ? I thought the whole point of using super is to 'theoretically' give you more, didnt think the standard stuff dropped power in your car, I would have though it just didnt give you anything extra.

As far as mkv's are concerned he is right.  They were set up for 98 so anything less than that results in a reduction in power.

As Alan says its all to do with the way FSI works (which the mk6 also uses - its the way forward!).  I remember the blurb he's talking about and all does become clear once you read it...)
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