Price Increase

[ub7rm]

This is gospel.

Any orders placed (by this I mean the car has to be ordered by the dealer on our system) by the 31st August will be price protected irrespective of when the vehicle is delivered.

They will not however be price protected against VAT as this is out of the control of the retailer/Volkswagen.

The price increase is 3.2% on Golf but this will only affect anyone ordering on the 1st September onwards.

Paying in full by the 31st August is nonsense. It won't be for target purposes though as the sale doesn't count until it's registered (assuming you are waiting for a 59 plate). It's more likely to do with cash flow. Some dealers have a policy that you need to pay in full three or four days before delivery, that may be the case for those of you taking your cars in the first week of Sept.

In my experience, these confusions tend to happen when the sales manager hasn't fully explained to the sales people and they assume/exagerate/cover their ar$es with customers.

Hope this helps

When you get a quote for a car and you agree on this quote handing over a deposit, that is legally binding, there is no way on earth that should any price rise wither it be the car's price or VAT being added will anyone have to pay the extra.

When I get my car tax reminder it says I owe £2xx.00.  Invariably when I go and buy my tax, I end up paying more as my renewal pretty much coincides with the budget increase day.

My employment contract says I get £xxk salary.  Yet the government can increase my tax and I get paid less.

The tax man does as he pleases.

If you buy your car on the 31st Dec you WONT pay the extra 2.5% VAT increase regardless of when you pick the car up even if its in March before you get it. The price agreed is the price you pay from day one. Frankly its bloody laughable to suggest otherwise.

I suspect it comes down to the contract and the actual date you take title.  Most invoices state a tax date (the day the invoice is issued usually).  The tax you pay will be the tax effective on that day regardless of subsequent changes in tax law.  If VW don't issue the invoice until the day you take delivery, you will obligated to pay whatever rate of tax is in effect on that date.  I'm willing to bet there is a clause somewhere in the small print of your contract stating that VW are not responsible for any changes in the taxation effective on the sale, in fact its probably a pretty broad statement about any general change in the law.

VW's internal price rises are a different matter.

[keelaw]

V.A.T. will increase to 17.5% on the 1st Dec too just to add to the misery. 

31st Dec. 

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/bud_bud09_press02.htm

i.e. 1 Jan!  so you're all wrong!

[VWmaindealer]

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I suspect it comes down to the contract and the actual date you take title.  Most invoices state a tax date (the day the invoice is issued usually).  The tax you pay will be the tax effective on that day regardless of subsequent changes in tax law.  If VW don't issue the invoice until the day you take delivery, you will obligated to pay whatever rate of tax is in effect on that date.  I'm willing to bet there is a clause somewhere in the small print of your contract stating that VW are not responsible for any changes in the taxation effective on the sale, in fact its probably a pretty broad statement about any general change in the law.

VW's internal price rises are a different matter.
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Exactly, I can't imagine any dealer (or many businesses for that matter) who don't have "VAT at prevailing rate" somewhere in the small print.

Don't forget, the price of the car isn't changing. That's the contract you have (that's what is price protected against VW price increases). It's the amount of tax the government is charging you that is changing. It cannot be fair to try and suggest the dealer will pay your VAT for you?

VWKev - I'm sorry mate, but I think you are wrong. If you order a car on the 31st December, you will get it in March/April so you will pay the new VAT.  As far as I can tell , the only exception to this would be if it was a physical car in the dealers stock that the dealer had already paid for so could therefore invoice to you prior to the VAT increase.

As and when Volkswagen give us information closer to the end of the year, I will be sure to post it up on here.

Cheers

[matchboy]

this is easy enough to clarify.  you will get charged VAT at the invoice date.  that's it.  if you're worried about the VAT going back up to 17.5% then make sure you sort everything out before this happens.

[VWmaindealer]

PRICE INCREASE UPDATE.

VW announced last night to us that we now have until 10:30am Tuesday for price protection. This is due to potential downtime of our ordering system over the bank holiday.

If anyone was rushing to a dealer to order one today to save 3.2%, you can still think about it over the weekend as long as you call your dealer first thing Tuesday morning.

VWmd

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Does not seem long since they put prices up. 
If you order now and have to wait do you get it at old price? or have to pay the rise? Im guessing you state that and get it in writing at time of order.

If you order now you will be charged the price increase.  I can remember in Feb sometime my local dealer sent out a letter informing of a price increase and if I were to order a new car before a certain date then I wouldn't have to pay the new price.

I still find it hard to believe that they are increasing prices in the current climate

So if you order now, at a price agreed, and put down a deposit, they will then charge you the extra later on ? Erm, hardly.

I just had a call from my dealer.  He said the prices are going up on 1st September, and the only way not to get hit by that was to have the finance in place (that is, pony up the cash) by 31st August.  Otherwise there is a chance of being hit by the price increase.

I've got build week 35, which is 24th August, so my car should be along in early September anyway.  It's no skin off my nose to get the financial ducks in a line a couple of weeks early, and at least he's given me plenty of notice to let me do that.

I thought you guys might appreciate a heads-up.

Rolfe.

Rolfe, they can NOT legally charge you more than the price stated on your new car order form.  The Sale of Goods Act enshrines this.  If they ask you for more money than was agreed on the order form, speak to www.ConsumerDirect.gov.uk

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Just read the small print on my contract:

"In the event of the retail price being increased the Purchaser agrees to pay the seller the amount of the addition or additions to such retail price, unless, within 14 days after receipt of such notice, he give notice to the Seller that he declines to do so, in which case the Seller shall have the option, by notice in writing to the Purchaser, to cancel this contract, and the deposit shall be returned to the Purchaser."

So there ya go!

That is an UNLAWFUL contract term.  If they try and enforce that - just forward that bit to:

The Unfair Contracts Terms Unit
The Office of Fair Trading

(Get their full address from www.oft.gov.uk)

[Teutonic_Tamer]

This is gospel.

Any orders placed (by this I mean the car has to be ordered by the dealer on our system) by the 31st August will be price protected irrespective of when the vehicle is delivered.

They will not however be price protected against VAT as this is out of the control of the retailer/Volkswagen.

The price increase is 3.2% on Golf but this will only affect anyone ordering on the 1st September onwards.

Paying in full by the 31st August is nonsense. It won't be for target purposes though as the sale doesn't count until it's registered (assuming you are waiting for a 59 plate). It's more likely to do with cash flow. Some dealers have a policy that you need to pay in full three or four days before delivery, that may be the case for those of you taking your cars in the first week of Sept.

In my experience, these confusions tend to happen when the sales manager hasn't fully explained to the sales people and they assume/exagerate/cover their ar$es with customers.

Hope this helps

When you get a quote for a car and you agree on this quote handing over a deposit, that is legally binding, there is no way on earth that should any price rise wither it be the car's price or VAT being added will anyone have to pay the extra.

When I get my car tax reminder it says I owe £2xx.00.  Invariably when I go and buy my tax, I end up paying more as my renewal pretty much coincides with the budget increase day.

My employment contract says I get £xxk salary.  Yet the government can increase my tax and I get paid less.

The tax man does as he pleases.

If you buy your car on the 31st Dec you WONT pay the extra 2.5% VAT increase regardless of when you pick the car up even if its in March before you get it. The price agreed is the price you pay from day one. Frankly its bloody laughable to suggest otherwise.

Nope.  Changes in Taxation rates are exempt from any price protection - and this has always been the case.

So if VW puts up the price, you are protected - but if that jock tw@t (who's carpet don't match his curtains - wierd bloke) puts up VAT or road fund licence, then you have to cough up.


Ohh, sorry - I don't dislike Scots in general, just the two fcukers who live in Downing Street. 

[Rolfe]

Rolfe, they can NOT legally charge you more than the price stated on your new car order form.  The Sale of Goods Act enshrines this.  If they ask you for more money than was agreed on the order form, speak to www.ConsumerDirect.gov.uk

Mmmm, but for some reason, I never got an order form.  I accepted their quote over the phone, and never got anything in writing.

Now you come to mention it, it's a little odd.

Rolfe.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Rolfe, they can NOT legally charge you more than the price stated on your new car order form.  The Sale of Goods Act enshrines this.  If they ask you for more money than was agreed on the order form, speak to www.ConsumerDirect.gov.uk

Mmmm, but for some reason, I never got an order form.  I accepted their quote over the phone, and never got anything in writing.

Now you come to mention it, it's a little odd.

Rolfe.

That sounds really fishy!    Whilst there is nothing wrong with doing an order over the fone, once they confirm the order by taking your deposit, they must send you through the post 'your copy' of the order form.  I suggest you speak to your local Trading Standards, or Consumer Direct if it applies in Scotland.