Headlamps? what do people think of these?

[celica]

hurdy, awesome pics
the sky looks ace

only gripe is how the angel light doesn't go all the way round in light, but apart from that it's cool

any adverse effects with these?

[Hurdy]

Right, let's see if I can answer everyones questions here.

The projector lights are brighter than the stock halogens. The lighting in the close-up pics are with the original lights that came with the headlights when I bought them. I removed the original lights for Osram nightbreakers which are even better. I replaced the "egg yolk" indicator lights for Philips silver ones...purely for visual effect when they AREN'T on!. The Angel eyes don't go all the way around as they have to have a power inlet source like ALL angel eyes do (yes, even on BMW's). The sidelights are still the originals and if I want to change them I will literally have to remove the front bumper and grill, take out the headlight housing and then change them.

I bought the headlights from a trader at the Ultimate Dubs Show in 2008 and he trades through the website linked below

http://www.auto-performance-parts.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VW40L24S

I'm not an electrician myself, but even I can see that the wiring can be separated into different circuits to accomodate a number of options:-

Running the angel eyes, DRLs and sidelights together (my option)
Running the DRL's separately and having the angel eyes and sidelights on together
Running the Angel eyes, DRL's and sidelights separatey.
If you wanted you could even splice either the angel eyes or/and the DRL's into the fog light circuit (not sure how legal or useful this would be though!)

HTH

[RedRobin]

^^^^
Thanks for clarifying that, Hurdy

For your LED DRL's to qualify as EC-legal, they would need to be wired so that they come on automatically with ignition and automatically go off whenever any of your other lights are switched on. So, in other words, run separately from sidelights/angel eyes.

[stevengeelan]

Sorry for digging this up again.

Has anyone bought the headlight from the seller on ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-V-BLACK-ANGEL-EYE-HEADLIGHTS-HEADLAMPS-NEW_W0QQitemZ400027190691QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item400027190691&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318#ht_500wt_956

 Are they the same item that can be purchased from here

http://www.auto-performance-parts.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VW40L24S

As it works out about £30 cheaper to buy them from the ebay seller.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

however there projecter type, put togther with an hid kit, wouldnt these be a really good xenon alternative?

Nope, they would be highly illegal, dangerous, and would invalidate your insurance! 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Proper DRL's are passive signal lights and NOT lights you put on at night. In fact it's illegal in Europe to run proper DRL's at night and they also must be wired to come on automatically with ignition.

So how come all Audis have a switch to turn OFF the DRLs? 

[RedRobin]

Proper DRL's are passive signal lights and NOT lights you put on at night. In fact it's illegal in Europe to run proper DRL's at night and they also must be wired to come on automatically with ignition.

So how come all Audis have a switch to turn OFF the DRLs? 

....The various countries in Europe are supposed to be adhering to the same rules but continue to debate and argue until such rules become established as law. Believe me - I've read very lengthy studies and documents on the subject. At present the car manufacturers are able to interpret how they are switched etc to suit themselves. At present Audi are doing whatever they are wanting to be doing within what they find is allowable / or what they can getaway with - Don't ask me exactly what the written detail is!

The documentation which came with my Hella LED DRL's is very clear and refers to specific rulings. So naturally, I have wired and switched them accordingly as I wish to stay out of trouble. Mine also have all the legally correct markings moulded into the lens.

I was at Brands Hatch today and saw an Alfa in the paddock with round LED DRL's like mine and in the 'fog light' location. Also, I've seen German Scirocco Police cars with exactly the same as mine.

[2007GTI]

am I right in saying the Mk 6 Golf has DRL's as I've seen alot running around with their lights on!?

[RedRobin]

am I right in saying the Mk 6 Golf has DRL's as I've seen alot running around with their lights on!?

....Yes it has lights which function as DRL's but they're not LED and are rather yellow. A sort of cross between a sidelight and a dipped headlight.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Proper DRL's are passive signal lights and NOT lights you put on at night. In fact it's illegal in Europe to run proper DRL's at night and they also must be wired to come on automatically with ignition.

So how come all Audis have a switch to turn OFF the DRLs? 

....The various countries in Europe are supposed to be adhering to the same rules but continue to debate and argue until such rules become established as law. Believe me - I've read very lengthy studies and documents on the subject. At present the car manufacturers are able to interpret how they are switched etc to suit themselves. At present Audi are doing whatever they are wanting to be doing within what they find is allowable / or what they can getaway with - Don't ask me exactly what the written detail is!

I would very strongly doubt that Audi are doing whatever they want!

Audi are arguably one of the WORLDs leaders in safety technologies, and in Automotive Engineering in general.  Audi would categorically NOT make up their own 'rules', and would NOT ignore any existing EU rules!  I strongly suggest that something has gotten 'lost in translation'.  I have personally been studying both the legal framwork, and the technical developments of cars (and other motor vehicles) with 'lights on in daylight conditions' for over 25 years - so considerably longer than the current craze of everyone wanting to 'copy' Audi.  And there is categorically NO requirement for the current specific DRLs to be permanently illuminated whilst the ignition is on!

The documentation which came with my Hella LED DRL's is very clear and refers to specific rulings.

I think you have taken the instructions from Hella as more than what they are pertaining to be.  What do they say about individual vehicle EU Type Approval?  What do they say about country-specific road traffic regulations acts?

Mine also have all the legally correct markings moulded into the lens.

And would you honestly expect Hella to sell non-'E' approved lighting? 

I was at Brands Hatch today and saw an Alfa in the paddock with round LED DRL's like mine and in the 'fog light' location.

Erm, they arn't the same as your Hellas - they are the traditional Alfa 'cloverleaf' design!  And the rest of the car is as ugly as sin too!

Also, I've seen German Scirocco Police cars with exactly the same as mine.

I strongly suggest that Hella were making those round-style LED DRLs long before you became the 'official advert' for them!