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Offline Rollini

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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: 18 March 2009, 15:25 »
would you be using this dealer for your services etc? if it all turns nasty how much hassle would it be to go to another vw dealer?

Offline VeeDubDan

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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: 18 March 2009, 15:43 »
So in theory if you go into a shop and buy something and hand over £5 if the shop keeper over changes and gives you change from £10 you have stolen £5 from him!  :undecided: :grin:
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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: 18 March 2009, 15:45 »
Yes a no, the main difference in this case is there will be a trail of paper work which no doubt would have been signed by both parties.

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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: 18 March 2009, 16:21 »
Pay them the money mate - you agreed a deal and that's it. Yes, they made a cock-up but you're still in the wrong. If I were you I would pay the full amount asap, as you do not own full title to the car and legally, it ain't yours. Perish the thought that some representative of the dealership may just tootle around your gaff one night and and take the car away - easy for them to code another key :rolleyes:

Do not let this matter drag on and go through the civil courts, you will lose big time and any judgement against you will have a massive impact on your future credit ratings and ability to get any loans.

We all slag of dealers but they also have a living to make and the missing £1k was probably more than their profit in this deal, especially in the current financial climate.

Do the right thing and pay up :wink:

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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: 18 March 2009, 16:49 »
So in theory if you go into a shop and buy something and hand over £5 if the shop keeper over changes and gives you change from £10 you have stolen £5 from him!  :undecided: :grin:

Technically, yes.

The Theft Act 1968 says that if you appropriate something that isn't yours (in the case you describe £5) even if you came by it innocently but either permanently deprive or intend to permanently deprive then that is theft.

In practice I suspect that most in that situation would not realise and forget about it.

In the case under discussion here, the dealership realise that they have made a mistake, the purchaser realises that the dealership has made a mistake (quite how he didn't realise on the day I'm not sure) and has admitted as much on here. I'm pretty certain that assuming they have the paperwork if this went ot court pitman4u would be forced to pay up.

As stated earlier if he doesn't have the money he should contact the dealership to sort out a solution before it becomes legally messy... I'm sure that they be prepared to come to a compromise.
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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: 18 March 2009, 18:26 »
What about the £1000 pound you paid cash :wink: :grin: :grin:

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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: 18 March 2009, 19:27 »
So in theory if you go into a shop and buy something and hand over £5 if the shop keeper over changes and gives you change from £10 you have stolen £5 from him!  :undecided: :grin:

Corgi is correct, TECHNICALLY this is classed as theft believe it or not; just like the restaurant example i gave earlier. But similarly, in this instance there really is no way of proving your guilt so you aren't going to get done for it. Where paperwork and signatures are involved its another story.


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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: 18 March 2009, 19:49 »
dont pay mate hold out as long as you can, if there was a slight chance that i could have got away with not paying an extra 1000 when i got mine id have jumped at the chance lol its there mistake not yours, and like r32uk said, what about the 1000 cash you paid along with the 500 deposit on your card, wink wink
some of us, myself included are in hard times at the moment and would try anything to save a few quid, not all of us are loaded like some on here  :laugh:

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« Reply #28 on: 18 March 2009, 20:12 »
If you thought you had hammered your credit card by the original amount how can you have spent the extra money?
Did you not budget for the original amount?

If I was the garage I'd just charge your card an extra £1,000.  And not bother telling you.
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Re: Urgent advice needed!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: 18 March 2009, 22:12 »
dont pay mate hold out as long as you can,

some of us, myself included are in hard times at the moment and would try anything to save a few quid, not all of us are loaded like some on here  :laugh:

I love this... you'd be the first to complain if the boot was on the other foot...

I'll bet a pound to a penny that pitman4u would have noticed straight away if the dealership had accidentally over charged him by £1000.

I'm not going to discuss on here wehther I'm loaded or not what I will say is that your moral standards are different to mine.

As I understand it it is unlikely that any criminal offence is provable in this case but it is highly likely (if not almost a certainty) that if this went to court the dealership would win and pitman4u would not only be left with £1000 to pay but also court costs and his own legal costs..
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