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Offline Dogbucket

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #50 on: 12 March 2009, 20:07 »
The TVR Griffith had 2 engines:-

4.3ltr - 280bhp and 320lbft - 1060kg
5.0ltr - 320bhp and 320lbft - 1060kg

Is that all?  :undecided:  My old S4  with its 4.2 V8 had 344bhp - and you probably know how much my current V8 steed has.

So did the AJP engines go in the Griffith?  :undecided:

Griffiths/Chimaeras have Rover V8s, 2 valve per cylinder pushrod 1950s designed. So no the bhp/litre is always going to look poor against a modern multivalve number. But its all about the power to weight.

The Griffith was supposed to have the AJP and then later the Speed 6 but neither happened. Some owners have retrofitted the AJP to both Griffiths and Chimaeras. Also the Chevrolet LS V8 is a popular retrofit.

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #51 on: 13 March 2009, 09:36 »
The rover V8 is a classic lazy old engine! It's torque curve is flat as a pancake generally, It'll have 260lbs/ft at 1500rpm all the way to 5000rpm. lol! My Dads cerbera has been fully rebuilt and pushed 451bhp on the dyno. Now thats a monster to control with no Traction control! However, In everyday life, he can't even put his foot flat in 3rd in the bone dry ! Theirs no need for so much power tbh. its all pub talk! =] Give me a 280bhp Golf and i'll be happy =]

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #52 on: 13 March 2009, 09:51 »
I rebuilt a Buick 455 cu years ago.
(The Rover V8 was a small aluminium version of this venerable engine.)

510 lb.ft out of the box.

Here is a nice potted history of the Buick/Rover V8:

http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rover-Autocar-Article.htm

My lump was cast iron and really heavy, Buick based the Aluminium version on it.
« Last Edit: 13 March 2009, 10:04 by Egbert Nosh »
Currently digging a bunker.

Offline SO8

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #53 on: 13 March 2009, 11:19 »
Agreed, the power outputs of the older V8's in the TVR's look poor in comparison to modern engines ..... but try one out to see if it goes well enough  :laugh: :evil: :evil:

You don't find many people complaining it is lacking  :wink:  As has been mentioned - torque from nothing to max revs  :smiley:
« Last Edit: 13 March 2009, 11:25 by SO8 »

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #54 on: 14 March 2009, 23:28 »
So how much is this Quaife for a GTI/Ed30 including fitting and who would fit it? Any known problems?

Good thread guys. :cool:

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #55 on: 15 March 2009, 00:45 »
A Quaife fitted for a manual will be slightly cheaper than a DSG one.

Look at around £1300 to £1400 for a manual and £1450 to £1650 for a DSG

Not many places do them yet, but the most often quoted is VWRacing/Racingline.
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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #56 on: 17 March 2009, 10:04 »
Thats pretty steep.
I would probably only take this route if I had remapped the car TBH....

Would a quaife really make a big difference with a standard GTI/ED30?

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #57 on: 17 March 2009, 11:29 »
I think you will need to do quite a bit more than just a remap to warrant the money it cost to get a Quaife, money down the drain on a standard one. All imo of course.

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #58 on: 17 March 2009, 12:26 »
Yeh, seems like a hell of a lot.
Dont think I'd ever spend that much on a single part!!......

Offline SO8

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Re: My car is now too powerful
« Reply #59 on: 17 March 2009, 12:44 »
Just changed back to Superchips newer map for the DSG .... far more power and no problems now we have nicer weather  :evil:

Much quicker on the uptake and the TC light is staying off  :laugh: