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Re: Worst GTI/ED30 Insults.......
« Reply #80 on: 14 March 2009, 21:16 »
I used to have a few SEATs and thought I was getting a VW without the badge.

When I went looking for my next car, I went through the same process, test drove the Leon and the Octy, but the Golf stood out as the better car for me, in so many ways (besides the Leon is fugly and the Octy is too long to park in my street)

Skoda are on par with VW and Audi in terms of build quality, SEAT definately aren't.

The directors of VAG wanted there to be subtle differences between their brands, and if you go through ETKA and compare parts, you see the different brands now get different quality parts.  Some may not even notice, but they shone through on the GTI test drive.
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« Reply #81 on: 15 March 2009, 07:28 »
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I've no doubt you are right but I don't actually like saloon cars - Not even an Audi RS4 unless it was an Avant. Hot hatchbacks, fast 2-door coupes and sports, are what float my boat. I just don't like the Skoda styling.

A friend of mine is modifying a Fabia VRS at the moment with APS. But I'd rather have a modded Lupo GTI or Fiat Abarth.

I agree Red on all counts. The VRS is a good value car but its cheap for a reason.  I read direct comparisons when the octavia vrs was released and it has different suspension components and a different steering setup.  It does not drive as nicely as the GTI and is has a lower quality interior and feel, every professional review has concluded the same.  I would recommend the skoda to my dad but i think thats because its target market is the older generation.  I'd have no problems driving the skoda for me, but of if i was looking at the similar vag products it would go;

Golf GTI
Audi A3 tfsi
Leon cupra
Octavia Vrs

in that order
have you ever driven an octavia vrs ????????????????
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« Reply #82 on: 15 March 2009, 07:34 »
dont get me wrong here guys a moddified gti will probably out drive the skoda but out the box the octavia is a better drivers car !

 and red i prefere the look of a smaller hatchback too but the rs 4 is my dream


this one is now £28k
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« Reply #83 on: 15 March 2009, 09:09 »
Interesting this - gotta be careful this doesn't transgress into an out and out flame war!!!LOL!!

Whilst looking for my next brumbrum, I initially did a back-to-back from an Audi S3 to a Golf GTi. (by this time, the RS4 prices were going nuts and I'll now wait and see ;) )

The Audi IS better put together with a higher quality feel. It is also quicker in a straight line. It is also very sure-footed due to the Quattro system (coming from my S4 quattro, this was reassuring).However, it IS devoid of "feel", dare I say, "boring", and expensive.

The Golf is slightly less of a quality product, only 2wd in comparison (no R32 here), BUT handles much better and is fun to drive. As in an absolute HOOT!!! :grin:

The clincher for me was simple - the increase in quality/outlay for the Audi isn't justifiable when put up against the Golf. The difference isn't worth nearly £10K.

Hence my decision to go VW.

I did look at the Leon Cupra. Don't like the interior on the new one - VERY put off by the dealers :(

I looked at the VRS (there's also one that every day tries to "play" on my drive to work - I've got bored of handing him his a$$, so now change my leaving time and route just to avoid him) - a nice car, but whilst the quality is streets ahead of Skodas of old (a VERY good thing), I'm under no illusion that it is the "entry-level" to the VAG group.
Don't get me wrong, a well-put together car, as you would expect I(hope ;) ) from VAG, but there IS just that lack of quality. And NOTHING to do with badge snobbery.

So my order (from top to bottom) would be:-

Audi, VW, Seat & Skoda

All IMHO, of course ;)

Dan :grin:


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Re: Worst GTI/ED30 Insults.......
« Reply #84 on: 15 March 2009, 09:25 »
oh... i could spend all afternoon here amongst your fragile egos.

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Re: Worst GTI/ED30 Insults.......
« Reply #85 on: 15 March 2009, 10:40 »

have you ever driven an octavia vrs ????????????????


....I hope to drive my friend's modded Fabia VRS when it's ready in the next few months.

Otherwise I've only been passenger for a short trip in a Stage2 modded Octavia but although I was impressed by the performance I wouldn't buy one for the reasons already stated.

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Re: Worst GTI/ED30 Insults.......
« Reply #86 on: 15 March 2009, 10:45 »
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@ Danno....

You've hit the nail right on the head - Perfect description of the differences (imo).

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Re: Worst GTI/ED30 Insults.......
« Reply #87 on: 15 March 2009, 10:46 »
dont get me wrong here guys a moddified gti will probably out drive the skoda but out the box the octavia is a better drivers car !

 and red i prefere the look of a smaller hatchback too but the rs 4 is my dream


this one is now £28k

Although Id also love a RS4 - I would want one in that colour!!!
It would have to be Blue ;)

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« Reply #88 on: 15 March 2009, 11:23 »
Feel free sunshine!

I, on the other hand, will quite probably be down the pub. Not on my computer. Enjoy! :grin:

oh... i could spend all afternoon here amongst your fragile egos.


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Re: Worst GTI/ED30 Insults.......
« Reply #89 on: 15 March 2009, 12:18 »
Feel free sunshine!

I, on the other hand, will quite probably be down the pub. Not on my computer. Enjoy! :grin:

oh... i could spend all afternoon here amongst your fragile egos.

Too nice a day for the pub.
Off to the fells.
Currently digging a bunker.