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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #10 on: 07 March 2009, 20:09 »
I suspect they have your car down as being on "time and distance" service.

btw why are you running your car on LL service schedule?

Maybe because some drivers don't drive like they are on the Nürburgring all the time. :wink:

You don't need to be a budding Lewis Hamilton.  To be on the LongLife regime, then you must keep your engine revs below 3000rpms for the vast majority of the time - easy in a turbo diesel, but not so easy in the GTI.  Which is why I always state that the GTI (along with all petrol engines) are NOT suitable for the LL regime.
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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #11 on: 07 March 2009, 20:15 »
Check your service book, on the front page there will be a data sticker for your exact car, that should show LL or T&D,

Wrong.  The data sticker only states weather the car is 'capable' of using the LL regime.  But the actual regime used on an individual car is soley down to how the VW stealer codes the cars own computer (initially, on the PDI, and thereafter on every service).

then check your last serv bill, if LL phone back ac and tell them so to update there records.

And that will do what exactly?  Arnold Clark, just like every VAG dealer in the world, will know weather the car is capable of being on LL regime.

The very last thing you need to be doing is somehow getting them to change the service due, by artificially extending the duration.  If the cars computer states it needs a service now, then it needs it NOW.
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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #12 on: 07 March 2009, 20:19 »
Last service stated..... Carried out second long life service..... Will call them Monday.

Maybe they incorrectly coded the next service due details in the computer - or maybe not.  But if the computer says do it now - then now it really must be.

But what hasn't been addressed in this thread is how you drive your car?  Because even if they did correctly code your car, and use the proper LL oil - then by it pinging for another service after just 12 months, that clearly indicates you are not suitable for the LL regime.  So get it changed to T&D, and have a cheaper 'oil change' service, and save some money in the process.
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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #13 on: 07 March 2009, 22:04 »
Look T_T. This guy manipulated the dash panel insert to show service need now. But before he pressed that button his dpi wasnt showing service now, if it was then it would be due now.

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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #14 on: 07 March 2009, 22:08 »
Also T_T if you want to be pedantic, all vw's from 2006 have come set to long life

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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #15 on: 07 March 2009, 22:09 »
Dont listen to winrya there about checking when needs service. What you did there causes the service now to be displayed, because its the start of one of the ways to cancel service light. Check you last bill from AC, if it says you had longlife service done then its not due till next year but if time&distance then you are due now.

Mine did this too, came up saying Service Now, but never comes up saying service now normally when i turn it on, seems odd, as surely it should tell you everytime its turned on?

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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #16 on: 07 March 2009, 22:14 »
Exactly

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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #17 on: 07 March 2009, 22:41 »
Ok ok all very interesting this debate..... I can't say one way or the other about the merits of t&d vs ll.

Clearly more servicing has to be welcomed. However for the record I don't drive hard, in fact most of the time I'd be as well with a sh!troen c1.

It's on LL just now, it's only done circa 9000 miles since the last service.

I will ask a cost but last time the robbin barstewards took me for £310!!!!

So I take it that my holding down the mileage button gave a false result? If on ll then why did it show service due?

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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #18 on: 09 March 2009, 08:12 »
Look T_T. This guy manipulated the dash panel insert to show service need now. But before he pressed that button his dpi wasnt showing service now, if it was then it would be due now.

NO HE DID NOT!!!  :angry:

RTFM - idiot!
The ONLY thing which can be done by the driver is either:
  • a/ call up the current 'Service Interval Display' (SID) info (ie, the detail of when the computer states the car needs a service)
  • b/ reset the SID to start counting down for a fresh 'Time and Distance' servicing - which would then give 9,700 miles or 356 days till next service

So HTF do either of those two above actions equate to NGCAA somehow 'manipulating' his SID to actually demand a service now?  It is IMPOSSIBLE.

And your final comment about his SID not showing service now before he pressed the button - well that is another simple answer.  The 'Service Now' warning does NOT stay on all the time.  When the SID calculates that a service is due, then 'Service Now' pings up when you first turn on the ignition, stays on for about two seconds, then completely disappears again - to enable the dash panel insert to display its' other 'normal' information, such as odometer, trip odo, gears (for the DSG), outside temperature.  It is ONLY 'Priority 1' warnings which are permanently displayed.

Please stop posting such blatant crap on this site!
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Re: is a service due?
« Reply #19 on: 09 March 2009, 08:24 »
Also T_T if you want to be pedantic, all vw's from 2006 have come set to long life

FFS - that is just a blatant LIE.

They do not, nor ever have 'come set to LongLife'!

Let me quote the FACTS.  From model year 2000, most petrol VAG cars were 'enabled' for the LongLife service REGIME.  That means, amongst other things, they were factory filled with LongLife ENGINE OIL.  For diesels, it was m/y 2001 (due to the late approval of the 506.01 specs).

To this day, that is still the case (actually - all engines, for all markets (including ALL export markets), weather they are capable of LongLife or not, are now factory filled with LongLife OILS).

The actual SERVICE REGIME is ONLY set by the dealer.  This is initially done on the Pre-Delivery Inspection (PDI), and is then continued with every subsequent service.  However, IF an informed customer (well, it aint gonna be the stealers, because they know fcuk all about the very specific requirements of the LL regime) asks for T&D service, then T&D service is set.

Your comment about all 2006 onwards VW cars set to LongLife is just pure fantasy!  My wifes model year 2007 was set to T&D.  My own 2007 RS4 was set to T&D.  And there are many, MANY other GTI owners on this very site who have elected to have the T&D regime.

I bet you work for a dub stealer!  :rolleyes:
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