New tyres time..

[KentBladeboy]

And it is these two reasons why I bought my RS4 into the melting pot.  

Are they any good?

£25,000 should buy me one.

They are very good! but for 25k.... this is what I would buy


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/911910.htm

Yawn.  HTF can a rear wheel drive BMW with a SMG (Shyte Manual Gearbox  ), and complete lack of traction in anything but perfectly dry tarmac - and in a straight line - ever compare with the awesome 4wd of the RS4.   In everyday real world driving, none of the BMW M cars, nor the AMG Mercs, nor the Lexus IS-F can even come close to the traction of any of the Torsen 4wd Audis.

But if you like to get your Rse out on every corner, then by all means go for the M5.  But just dont think it could ever keep up with an RS4 in the twisties. 

If you want to spend 25K, and go very quick around possibly the most demanding track on the planet  ie The Ring, then buy a M3 CSL, yep its got the same SMG  gearbox (yes Shyte Manual Gearbox as above), only 2 wheel drive, obviously a big disadvantage over 4 wheel drive.................oh and by the way, its only 19 secs a lap faster then a RS4....probably just as well its got a crap gearbox, with a standard manual it could have been seriously fast I guess,  nearly forgot , plenty of twists and turns on the ring too, I'd have thought the 4WD would have pis*ed it on there.

But getting back to the OP, it was all about tyres, so would be nice to hear from someone else who has backed to back tested some different brands and got some concrete conclusions of their own.

Oh by the way, I'm now bored with this thread     

[pitch3110]

Kumho's all the way............that should do it

[16vLeroy]

Ha ha, interesting thread. Tyres are such an emotive subject aren't they?
Everyone has an opinion, everyone thinks they are right, but the reality is that one make is good for one, and not for another. It all comes down to what you expect from a tyre and how you drive.

Falkens are good - Dunlops are crap? Dunlop make Falken, part of the Sumitomo Rubber Industry.

Dunlop Sportmaxx TT, had em on a Mondeo (235/45zr17), they rocked. Absolutely rubbish in the wet, and lethal in the cold!

Don't always believe what you read on the internet, trust TUV ratings, and the factory test drivers, these guys know what's good and what's rubbish, but as i said, it's all personal opinion.

[Max Q]

And it is these two reasons why I bought my RS4 into the melting pot.  

Are they any good?

£25,000 should buy me one.

They are very good! but for 25k.... this is what I would buy


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/911910.htm

Yawn.  HTF can a rear wheel drive BMW with a SMG (Shyte Manual Gearbox  ), and complete lack of traction in anything but perfectly dry tarmac - and in a straight line - ever compare with the awesome 4wd of the RS4.   In everyday real world driving, none of the BMW M cars, nor the AMG Mercs, nor the Lexus IS-F can even come close to the traction of any of the Torsen 4wd Audis.

But if you like to get your Rse out on every corner, then by all means go for the M5.  But just dont think it could ever keep up with an RS4 in the twisties. 

If you want to spend 25K, and go very quick around possibly the most demanding track on the planet  ie The Ring, then buy a M3 CSL, yep its got the same SMG  gearbox (yes Shyte Manual Gearbox as above), only 2 wheel drive, obviously a big disadvantage over 4 wheel drive.................oh and by the way, its only 19 secs a lap faster then a RS4....probably just as well its got a crap gearbox, with a standard manual it could have been seriously fast I guess,  nearly forgot , plenty of twists and turns on the ring too, I'd have thought the 4WD would have pis*ed it on there.

But getting back to the OP, it was all about tyres, so would be nice to hear from someone else who has backed to back tested some different brands and got some concrete conclusions of their own.

Oh by the way, I'm now bored with this thread     

The M3 CSL is a stripped out track car. I thought this was a pissing contest between the RS4 and the M5.

Since you mentioned it, the RS4 is four seconds quicker around the 'ring' than the M5. So conclusive proof then that the Audi RS4>BMW M5.

[illyun]

Kumhos, the thinking mans tyre.

Well I have a set of 4 brand new Kumho Ecsta 18" 225/40 for £180 if anyone is interested... they are still bolund together and have the stickers on...

[R32UK]

Kumhos, the thinking mans tyre.

Well I have a set of 4 brand new Kumho Ecsta 18" 225/40 for £180 if anyone is interested... they are still bolund together and have the stickers on...

NOw that is CHEAP!!! Considering I just shelled out over £500 for the F1's...... which feel terrific I have to say. Almost drives like a new car, as I hadnt noticed how badly the old tyres were affecting the ride and handling. Will be looking after this set with regular checks for any damage and of course pressure checks on a monthly basis. 

[illyun]

Kumhos, the thinking mans tyre.

Well I have a set of 4 brand new Kumho Ecsta 18" 225/40 for £180 if anyone is interested... they are still bolund together and have the stickers on...

NOw that is CHEAP!!! Considering I just shelled out over £500 for the F1's...... which feel terrific I have to say. Almost drives like a new car, as I hadnt noticed how badly the old tyres were affecting the ride and handling. Will be looking after this set with regular checks for any damage and of course pressure checks on a monthly basis. 

Yes it is cheap... I bought them 4-5 months back, but then decided on the Michelins before my current ones ran out... of course, the Michelins are better  - I think - but then I'm not sure you can even get 1 Michelin for £180!  From what I have read, the Kumhos punch well above their price point and are probably one of the best value tyres you can buy, but with decent performance to boot.

[Smoothcall]

And it is these two reasons why I bought my RS4 into the melting pot.  

Are they any good?

£25,000 should buy me one.

They are very good! but for 25k.... this is what I would buy


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/911910.htm

Yawn.  HTF can a rear wheel drive BMW with a SMG (Shyte Manual Gearbox  ), and complete lack of traction in anything but perfectly dry tarmac - and in a straight line - ever compare with the awesome 4wd of the RS4.   In everyday real world driving, none of the BMW M cars, nor the AMG Mercs, nor the Lexus IS-F can even come close to the traction of any of the Torsen 4wd Audis.

But if you like to get your Rse out on every corner, then by all means go for the M5.  But just dont think it could ever keep up with an RS4 in the twisties. 

I disagree. With an extra 100bhp and someone who knows what they are doing I would put my money on the M5 to easily beat the rs4. Sorry but its true because I say so

The old old saying, power is nothing without traction - and even the best drivers can NOT overcome the laws of physics.

Although apparently you can.....

But not in the same league as an RS4.  It is all down to weight, when it comes down to things like 'stresses on tyres'.  It is a well-known fact that if you double the mass (weight) of an object, then the increase in forces is actually the 'square' of that double.

I think you'll find that F=ma

[pazz]

But not in the same league as an RS4.  It is all down to weight, when it comes down to things like 'stresses on tyres'.  It is a well-known fact that if you double the mass (weight) of an object, then the increase in forces is actually the 'square' of that double.

I think you'll find that F=ma

Ahahaha nice one smoothcall!

To understand the above equation, if you doubled the mass then the force would have to also double to give the same acceleration.

the mass (weight) of an object

Also, mass does not = weight, weight is a measurement of force. Weight = mass x acceleration of gravity. So you cannot just weight something and then use it in the F=ma equation.

[Egbutt Wash]

That's in our universe smoothcall.
In the strange world of TT anything can happen.