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Offline KentBladeboy

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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #10 on: 05 February 2009, 10:09 »
Yep, agree it does not have an hill assist or roll back protection, but I found that on an incline, if you let your foot off the brake, the car feels like it will run backwards, but only moves a few inches, then the creep takes over.  I never tried it on a very steep incline, where I guess it would keep rolling backwards, but human nature takes over, before that and you hit the throttle   :huh:
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #11 on: 05 February 2009, 10:10 »
I've read that kickdown is quite stressful for the DSG box..

Kicking the wife is quite stressful too I'm told,  but they still keep working   :evil:
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #12 on: 05 February 2009, 10:50 »
I've read that kickdown is quite stressful for the DSG box..

Sorry, but can't agree with that at all.  Kickdown is a perfectly acceptable function on any autobox, even if they are a "dual clutch manual".  Launch control, along with 'drag strip' type starts are way more stressful on a DSG box.
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #13 on: 05 February 2009, 10:51 »
Yep, agree it does not have an hill assist or roll back protection, but I found that on an incline, if you let your foot off the brake, the car feels like it will run backwards, but only moves a few inches, then the creep takes over.  I never tried it on a very steep incline, where I guess it would keep rolling backwards, but human nature takes over, before that and you hit the throttle   :huh:

Or correct use of the handbrake!  :tongue:  :lipsrsealed:  :smiley:
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #14 on: 05 February 2009, 10:52 »
I've read that kickdown is quite stressful for the DSG box..

Kicking the wife is quite stressful too I'm told,  but they still keep working   :evil:

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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #15 on: 05 February 2009, 11:30 »
I've read that kickdown is quite stressful for the DSG box..

Sorry, but can't agree with that at all.  Kickdown is a perfectly acceptable function on any autobox, even if they are a "dual clutch manual".  Launch control, along with 'drag strip' type starts are way more stressful on a DSG box.

....Don't tell him that! illyun has just come back from a very successful weekend at Santa Pod and looks like he's becoming hooked on the drag strip :evil:

It's exactly the DSG stresses which you mention, T_T, which stop me from attempting the quarter-mile.
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #16 on: 05 February 2009, 11:50 »
Yep, agree it does not have an hill assist or roll back protection, but I found that on an incline, if you let your foot off the brake, the car feels like it will run backwards, but only moves a few inches, then the creep takes over.  I never tried it on a very steep incline, where I guess it would keep rolling backwards, but human nature takes over, before that and you hit the throttle   :huh:

Or correct use of the handbrake!  :tongue:  :lipsrsealed:  :smiley:

Ain't that the thing they test on the MOT?  What else it used for?   :nerd:
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #17 on: 05 February 2009, 12:33 »
Not really.  To activate kickdown (and kickdown works in all three modes  :wink:), you must be at "Wide Open Throttle" (WOT) - ie have the accelerator pedal hard to the floor.  Once you lift the throttle pedal just a few millimeters (therefore disengaging the kickdown switch) - the gearbox will revert to the usual sedate manner of gear shifts.  But if you are in sport mode, then the shift points will be much higher up the rev range, even at light throttle openings.

Kickdown appears to work for me even when not in full WOT. The box will kick down a gear even if I press the throttle half-way down. If I floor it, it can drop down by 2 gears - dependant on speed and current gear etc ofcourse

Is there anyway to stop this? I'd prefer it to only happen when I'm really nailing it (WOT only). Its almost like its over-sensitive. Kinda surprises me sometimes as I'm only expecting a moderate increase in speed and all of a sudden it takes off. Fine in the summer but not in weather like we have had recently.

Best example is in "D" doing 45-50mph on motorway and wanting to get up to 70mph.

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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #18 on: 05 February 2009, 13:05 »
I've read that kickdown is quite stressful for the DSG box..

Sorry, but can't agree with that at all.  Kickdown is a perfectly acceptable function on any autobox, even if they are a "dual clutch manual".  Launch control, along with 'drag strip' type starts are way more stressful on a DSG box.

....Don't tell him that! illyun has just come back from a very successful weekend at Santa Pod and looks like he's becoming hooked on the drag strip :evil:

It's exactly the DSG stresses which you mention, T_T, which stop me from attempting the quarter-mile.


Thats why I'm looking into HPA uprated DSG clutch packs  :evil: :evil: :evil:   But tbh even with those, I will have to be careful with launch control.  I don't think I'll be using the launch control feature more than 6-7 times a year which should be ok.  I'm probably going to do drag starts with manual or just s-mode with no launch control.
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Re: can the dsg be driven as a full automatic?
« Reply #19 on: 05 February 2009, 13:11 »
I've read that kickdown is quite stressful for the DSG box..

Sorry, but can't agree with that at all.  Kickdown is a perfectly acceptable function on any autobox, even if they are a "dual clutch manual".  Launch control, along with 'drag strip' type starts are way more stressful on a DSG box.

....Don't tell him that! illyun has just come back from a very successful weekend at Santa Pod and looks like he's becoming hooked on the drag strip :evil:

It's exactly the DSG stresses which you mention, T_T, which stop me from attempting the quarter-mile.


Thats why I'm looking into HPA uprated DSG clutch packs  :evil: :evil: :evil:   But tbh even with those, I will have to be careful with launch control.  I don't think I'll be using the launch control feature more than 6-7 times a year which should be ok.  I'm probably going to do drag starts with manual or just s-mode with no launch control.

Is this because of how much power you have mate? It's all ok for me to do them if i want as i have alot less?

Im worried now  :undecided: