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Offline boogeysheftel

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #80 on: 18 April 2004, 10:07 »
why do you all go for a golf gti? Because it's cheap and hot. The 8v is much cheaper than 16v (car price, repair, fuel consumption ant of course insurance) and it is as hot as the 16v till 4000rpm. The 0-100 km/h it does  almost in the same time. So what is a better hot hatch around town? Go cheap and fast with 8v, go faster with 16v if you need, but you won't  feel the advantage untill you go on motorway. I don't go on motorways often, my 90' 8v suits me perfectly, i would like a 16v, but i don't want to pay an extra for it.  

With all the respect.

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Offline karmakanix

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #81 on: 18 April 2004, 10:44 »
i like 3dr 8v's with manual windows and 1/4 glass, then again I like billy ray cyrus and wear vests
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Offline tinman

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #82 on: 18 April 2004, 12:53 »
Quote from: golfvr6 on 18 April 2004, 09:23
Not much of a difference between an 8 and 16v???
Seriously chaps i don't think you could have driven a decent 16v.
Thats the same as saying there isn't much difference between the 16v and vr6  ;)

they're all mad. totally raving.

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #83 on: 18 April 2004, 13:46 »
so is is true that both 16v and 8v r about the same till u get 2 4000rpm??
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Offline Zoid

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #84 on: 18 April 2004, 16:01 »
Quote from: golfvr6 on 18 April 2004, 09:23
Not much of a difference between an 8 and 16v???
Seriously chaps i don't think you could have driven a decent 16v.
That?s the same as saying there isn't much difference between the 16v and vr6  ;)

It's very subjective trying to describe the speed difference between them, maybe the 16v I drove wasn't a good one (although it had been well maintained) or maybe I just had unrealistic expectations of how fast the 16v is. Of course it's faster but I suppose I wasn't that impressed, plus I just didn't like having to use high revs all the time to get at the extra power, now if you had 16v power delivered like an 8v then I would be raving about it!
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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #85 on: 18 April 2004, 16:40 »
Quote from: Zoid on 18 April 2004, 16:01
Quote from: golfvr6 on 18 April 2004, 09:23
Not much of a difference between an 8 and 16v???
Seriously chaps i don't think you could have driven a decent 16v.
That?s the same as saying there isn't much difference between the 16v and vr6  ;)

It's very subjective trying to describe the speed difference between them, maybe the 16v I drove wasn't a good one (although it had been well maintained) or maybe I just had unrealistic expectations of how fast the 16v is. Of course it's faster but I suppose I wasn't that impressed, plus I just didn't like having to use high revs all the time to get at the extra power, now if you had 16v power delivered like an 8v then I would be raving about it!


with all due respect its not subjective.

the difference is very real and not in the mind.

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marcus123

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #86 on: 19 April 2004, 08:49 »
oh dear people, this is all getting very b!tchy again isnt it :-[

my simple point was that i couldnt justify the diffrence enuf for me to go out and buy a 16valver.

when me and my 8v get serious, ill be looking towards a vr6 or g60 conversion, thats the point i was making! ;D

both great cars, lets debate, not argue ;)
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marcus123

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #87 on: 19 April 2004, 08:53 »
Quote from: boogeysheftel on 18 April 2004, 10:07
why do you all go for a golf gti? Because it's cheap and hot. The 8v is much cheaper than 16v (car price, repair, fuel consumption ant of course insurance) and it is as hot as the 16v till 4000rpm. The 0-100 km/h it does  almost in the same time. So what is a better hot hatch around town? Go cheap and fast with 8v, go faster with 16v if you need, but you won't  feel the advantage untill you go on motorway. I don't go on motorways often, my 90' 8v suits me perfectly, i would like a 16v, but i don't want to pay an extra for it.  

With all the respect.



good point mate, i was trying to get this across earlier on in the thread.

for town driving your onto a winner either way!
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Offline Zoid

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #88 on: 19 April 2004, 18:38 »
Quote from: tinman on 18 April 2004, 16:40
with all due respect its not subjective.
the difference is very real and not in the mind.

tin

I'm sorry but with all due respect it's very subjective trying to describe speed and performance, this can be measured using empirical values, for example using time, lets say look at 0-60 and top speed, the 16v is 0.4 of a second faster to 60 and has an extra 10mph top, doesn't sound a massive amount to me.
However trying to describe the speed and performance is extremely subjective, what feels fast to one person may feel slow to another, for example a go kart doing 30mph may 'feel' faster than a Merc doing 100mph. All I was saying was that to me the 16v didn't feel that much faster, this is just my subjective opinion, end of.
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Offline tinman

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #89 on: 19 April 2004, 19:05 »
??? its only subjective if you use the word wrong  :-\

we've already come to the conclusion that the 16v you drove was pants.

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