My 'problem' is having my car an 8 valve GTI slated by a 'moderator' I have no problem with any VR6 if you read my posts you will see I love em as I do VR6 4motion. What I do have a problem with is people taking the piss out of the 8 valve after all it is a GTI. VR6 has offered a lot of good advice in his posts undoubted, I have taken some of it, but now he has 'crossed' the line into moderator status and therefore in my humble opinion should be all embracing in the GTI marque. Just my opinion but I believe it is valid.