You got me riled now, at the end of the day people get obsessed with cars, whether they go quick or not, the Triumph Vitesse has a massive following but it aint 'vitesse' anymore not compared with todays motors, i just dont think you get it, I mean you dont slate the mk1 1600CC fella do ya? (thats not quick) Its all about the GTI badge what it means, the history, the classless status, the package, the originality, you have no right as a 'moderator' (ahem) to even start to demean any GTI even if you do mean it as a 'wind up' VR6 make up you're mind which side of the fence you sit on otherwise I WILL KICK YOU OFF IT, try me . . .