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golfvr6

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #50 on: 24 December 2003, 19:27 »
Not bad. I think the m3 and rs models are both sh!t hot. My wife wants an m3 in estoril blue. I just prefer the audi.

golfvr6

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #51 on: 24 December 2003, 19:38 »
M3 CSL


0-60 4.2 seconds


Er no, the 0-60 is actually 4.9 secs
0.2 slower than the Audi RS6  ;D

courtesy of BMW.com

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #52 on: 24 December 2003, 21:00 »
evo list the CSL at 4.2

this website has it at 4.3

http://www.cars-cars-cars.org/0-60-Times-Calculator.htm


tis faster. :)
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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #53 on: 24 December 2003, 22:15 »
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M3 CSL


0-60 4.2 seconds

isnt the McLaren F1 quoted at 3.9secs.....and the Porsche GT3 quoted at 4.2secs

U saying the M3 can keep with a Porsche 911 GT3?

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #54 on: 25 December 2003, 02:44 »
McLaren F1 does it in 3.2. The GT3 is around 4.1 iirc. But, again, according to Autocar, if the road is smooth enough, a CSL will keep pace with just about anything, including a GT3 and a 360CS. It's a ferociously fast car.
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golfvr6

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #55 on: 25 December 2003, 12:28 »
evo list the CSL at 4.2

this website has it at 4.3

http://www.cars-cars-cars.org/0-60-Times-Calculator.htm


tis faster. :)

Er no, the spec is 4.9 secs as listed on BMW website.
www.bmw.com

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #56 on: 25 December 2003, 14:46 »
Manufacturer's figures (except in the case of the Italians) are always at least half a second on the pessimistic side (the Italians do it the other way round). The best source imo for 0-60 times is evo magazine, pretty much the bible as far as performance cars are concerned.

The comparitive 0-60 times according to the bible?

RS4 0-60 4.8 secs
RS6 0-60 4.8 secs

M3 CSL 0-60 4.5secs (4.2 was taken from the preview article)

Don't get me wrong I like Audis, and the RS models are obscene (if only they weren'y bloody estates), but M3's are in another league imo, and the CSL is one of the finest performance cars of all time imo.


Merry christmas anyway tho :)
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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #57 on: 25 December 2003, 14:49 »
CSL has that silly cardboard boot.. me subs + skateboard would fall right through the floor.. lol
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golfvr6

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« Reply #58 on: 25 December 2003, 21:45 »
I wouldn't know as i don't read evo magazine. Infact i don't read any of the boy racer mags.
I do agree that manufacturers performance figures are usually understated. However both bmw and audi state practically identical times for the m3 csl and rs6.
So i think it is unlikely that one is any slower than the other really. I certainly wouldn't claim the m3 is in a different league as in reality the performance is probably pretty much identical to the rs6.
Out of interest, back to the cars we actually can afford to own, what did evo say about the mk3 8v gti?
Happy christmas  :D

golfvr6

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Re:mk3 heavy...
« Reply #59 on: 25 December 2003, 22:25 »
The Audi RS6 is available in saloon and estate versions.
BHP 450  0-60 4.7 secs.
The RS4 is only available as an estate.
BHP 380  0-60 4.9 secs.