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Offline sKrEwBaLL

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #30 on: 24 October 2003, 18:40 »
That may prove handy!

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #31 on: 24 October 2003, 18:48 »
Oooooooooooooo yes  ;D

I think they have a diesel MK2 that is seriously fast  ??? Will have to investigate!!

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #32 on: 24 October 2003, 23:09 »
I am a freelance VW journalist and last month I actually did buy a 91 8v with 75k for ?1900 - he was going to ask ?2000.
I did have to travel from Bham to Neath in South Wales to go get it though.
Get this - desirable 3 door in my favorite colour of Pearl Grey (Oak Green is way too corny now!) not one panel had ever been resprayed, FSH, 14 inch BBS RA, long MOT, tax, 3 owners, original number plates, perfect interior, Sony 10 CD.

Not bragging - just saying they are out there but you do have to get up early, travel miles and be prepared for disappointment.
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Offline AlanGTI

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #33 on: 24 October 2003, 23:40 »
Luckyley my mate knows his stuff like so i should avoid all the sh!tters..

f**k me i'm pissed..offf to bed i think

16V is still callin after all this sh!t. ::)

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #34 on: 25 October 2003, 18:57 »
alright mate. i had the same probs when i first brought a golf. i had a 16v and wrote it off the brought an 8v. the 8v is so much more fun to drive. the response and torque lower down and in the mid range is much better and like you say the only real difference in the 16v is top end but with a few mods to the 8v wont be no different.
I got the late digifant with the electrics and power steering. there well good. go with the 8v, u know u want to, think of that torque, plus with the digifant u dont have to worry bout porting and polishing etc. plus the digifant, stick a gurth exhaust on it and u can do some brill back fires!!!!!!!

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #35 on: 25 October 2003, 20:50 »
I need to sell my car first and my buyer has just dropped out  ::)

Can't wait to have the ???? and start lookin  ;D

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #36 on: 25 October 2003, 21:39 »
VolksWizard looks like you got a good deal, I paid 3k for my 1990 8v (65k, 2 owners, PAS, etc), and I know it's quite a high price but it's absolutely immaculate. I think it's worth every penny, if you forget about the age and just value it based purely on condition, driving experience etc, it could easily match cars that cost 3 or 4 times as much. Plus I travelled up to Lincolnshire to view it (a whole days worth of travelling), as soon as I saw it on the driveway I knew it was special. If I hadn't of bought it I would still have been looking now, and probably would have wasted large amounts of time and not to mention money viewing allot of so called 'mint' cars, that turn out to be sheds! The really goods ones are now few and far between, you can see a photo of her here:

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #37 on: 25 October 2003, 22:15 »
alright mate. i had the same probs when i first brought a golf. i had a 16v and wrote it off the brought an 8v. the 8v is so much more fun to drive. the response and torque lower down and in the mid range is much better and like you say the only real difference in the 16v is top end but with a few mods to the 8v wont be no different.
I got the late digifant with the electrics and power steering. there well good. go with the 8v, u know u want to, think of that torque, plus with the digifant u dont have to worry bout porting and polishing etc. plus the digifant, stick a gurth exhaust on it and u can do some brill back fires!!!!!!!


??? If the 8v is/was so good - why do a 16v?

The 16v is an altogether better car.

Quoting from VW Motoring Feb87 who test drove the New Mk2 16v:

This [8v Mk2 GTI] increased the power to 112 bhp and the torque to 109lbf ft (as opposed to 110 bhp and 102lbf ft for the 1600).

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In terms of bhp, the 16v produces 139 at 6,100rpm as opposed to the 8valves 112bhp at 5,500.

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More importantly [the 16v] between 2,800 rpm and 6,100 the torque never drops below 118lbf ft.

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So this is quite clear - the 16v develops more torque at 2800 rpm than the 8v does at any point on the rev range. So all this that the 8v is better lower down is RUBBISH.

As for the some of differences, the suspension and brakes are but to name a few items that got changed.

Mod'ing a car and comparing it to a non modified car is quite pointless. Its totally unfair comparison that has no boundaries.

Tin


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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #38 on: 25 October 2003, 22:18 »
OMG  :o

Zoid how MINT is your car!!!!

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Re:Buying a MK2...8V OR 16V????????
« Reply #39 on: 26 October 2003, 00:01 »
Tin is spot on  :D