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From my understanding the 16v actually has slightly more torque throughout the entire rev range, just over 5% more torque than an 8v but produced at higher revs. (although it?s arguable you?d notice 5% extra on the roads)



However because the different is very slight and because of the actual engine characteristics of the 8v i.e. not revving as high and producing it's max torque at lower revs, it quite often 'feels' like it's more torquey than the 16v.

Of course the 16v is the faster car, there is no doubt about it, however because of the constant need to have to use high revs to get the extra I wasn't won over by it as opposed to my 8v. Now maybe a 16v with a 2L bottom end would be a completely different story?

In terms of modding in some areas the 16v is better, for example the 16v responds better to cc increase as opposed to the 8v which needs allot more head work in order to get it to breathe properly.

Both cars are great, if you enjoy using high revs then 16v all the way, if not then the 8v has allot to offer and in my opinion isn't far behind it?s 16v brother.

btw Tin no offence but you should listen and respect other people's opinions and views a bit more rather than being sarcastic...  

definitely agree with you there zoid.  It feels as though the 8v is more torquey but that is not what it says on paper.  One certainty after the recent swop from 8v to 16v is the top end difference.  Added to that there are so many cars that exude different characteristics despite having the same engine.  I can well imagine a 16v being fairly useless below 4000 rpm.  Thankfully mine has been driven so well by previous owners and cared for that it is very punchy.

tinman lets just give up

its probably wise  

Quote from: veedubgti16v on 21 April 2004, 15:47

im not arguing, im stating facts. you are getting stroppy because these facts are not to your liking. and im not agreeing to disagree because i am right and you are wrong.

how is an 8v a better car than the 16v then? explain it to me.

im sorry mate but you are just sounding childish now.
how can you try and tell me that you are right and i am wrong without it all sounding like it turning into a joke?



i had the choice of buying both cars, i went to my local specialist to get some information on which was the better car(baring in mind i was goin to do some modifications) they sed that they are both excellent cars but the 8valve is better to mod. so i chose the 8 valve on there EXPERT advise.

im afraid to say we have to agree to disagree because im not entertaining your (im right and your not philosophy).

that kind of attitude is a funny to me

i thougt this was a grown up conversation?

ive given you the number call them and find out

put that in your pipe and smoke it

marcus, listen. i am stating FACTS, not my opinion(which you are) and this is what makes me right and you wrong, not because im 'childish'. so come on then you still havent told me why the 8v is better than the 16v.

something to do with valve area, and something to do with valve overlap. more valves, less overlap.

i aint a mechanic so i dont understand these things. i sorta blanked out when i was being taught this yesterday. cant remember a thing between 355pm and 400pm. apparently it was quite interesting....