badge is in better nick now after i sand blasted all the chromy crap off it at work today and no it doesn't have 8v stuck to it and it's not on my 16valver i have a plain grill with twin headlights but will be changing for crystal singles cos they look the dogs blocks if you know what i mean and i'll give the badge away if anybody wants,,,,,,,,,just let me know where to send it and by the way zoid what can i say.........nice , i think you know what i'm talkin about