Advisory on console bushes

[Catnapper]

Just had service & MOT done with an advisory on the console bushes.
Couple of questions.
Car is still under warranty, whats the likely hood that these ae a warranty item?
If not, I'm keeping the car so thinking of upgrading to Poly bushes. Has anyone done this (DIY), if so any thoughts.
Keeping it after seeing the price of a New GTI 
Thanks.

[Paul70]

Unless you have the tools to remove old bush and fit the new bush I doubt this is a DIY task.

I changed to superpro bushes on the front LCAs and they lasted 6 months before developing a horrible squeak going over any kind of speed bump so I changed back to OEM. There are some good OEM upgrades depending on the bush location - I changed to Clubsport S rear LCA bushes and you can notice the difference and no squeaks as they’re rubber.

One of the best things I’ve done is get a proper wheel alignment at a specialist - everyone comments on how planted the car feels now - best £160 I’ve spent on the car 😊

[SRGTD]

Suspension bushes would normally be considered a consumable, wear and tear item, in which case they’re unlikely to be covered under warranty.

Although suspension bushes aren’t specifically mentioned as excluded in the terms and conditions of VW’s original 3 year factory warranty, it does give examples of the types of wear and tear items that aren’t covered. The items listed below under the second bullet point are examples of wear and tear items quoted by VW and not an exhaustive list, but IMHO the implication is that other wear and tear items would also be excluded (see extract below from VW’s website);

Items which are excluded from warranty cover include but are not limited to:

• Components or equipment which were not part of the vehicle at the point of original manufacture.
• Fair wear and tear items, such as brake pads, brake discs, brake and clutch linings, wiper rubbers, spark plugs, bulbs and fuses, tyres, carpets and seat covers.
• Fluids, oils and coolants (except as part of a valid repair).
• Bodywork, unless the vehicle is subject to the Volkswagen anti-perforation warranty.
• Components, equipment or software (Chip tuning) which are not part of the vehicle at the point of original manufacture (unapproved modifications)

Link to the factory warranty terms and conditions VW’s website;
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/important-information/warranties-and-insurance/new-car-terms.html

If your car’s original factory warranty has expired and you have is an extended warranty (VW or otherwise), then whether suspension bushes are covered will depend on the scope of cover / exclusions outlined in the warranty policy booklet, so it’d be worth reading through the small print. 

[Catnapper]

Unless you have the tools to remove old bush and fit the new bush I doubt this is a DIY task.

I changed to superpro bushes on the front LCAs and they lasted 6 months before developing a horrible squeak going over any kind of speed bump so I changed back to OEM. There are some good OEM upgrades depending on the bush location - I changed to Clubsport S rear LCA bushes and you can notice the difference and no squeaks as they’re rubber.

One of the best things I’ve done is get a proper wheel alignment at a specialist - everyone comments on how planted the car feels now - best £160 I’ve spent on the car 😊

Thanks for the response,
I was thinking of just removing the LCA,s and taking it elsewhere to remove bushes. Poly bushes I've seen seem to be 3 part items. i.e install poly bush then insert metal sleeves which seems to be pretty straight forward.
However your mention of squeaking does deter me. Keep researching I think.

[Catnapper]

Suspension bushes would normally be considered a consumable, wear and tear item, in which case they’re unlikely to be covered under warranty.

Although suspension bushes aren’t specifically mentioned as excluded in the terms and conditions of VW’s original 3 year factory warranty, it does give examples of the types of wear and tear items that aren’t covered. The items listed below under the second bullet point are examples of wear and tear items quoted by VW and not an exhaustive list, but IMHO the implication is that other wear and tear items would also be excluded (see extract below from VW’s website);

Items which are excluded from warranty cover include but are not limited to:

• Components or equipment which were not part of the vehicle at the point of original manufacture.
• Fair wear and tear items, such as brake pads, brake discs, brake and clutch linings, wiper rubbers, spark plugs, bulbs and fuses, tyres, carpets and seat covers.
• Fluids, oils and coolants (except as part of a valid repair).
• Bodywork, unless the vehicle is subject to the Volkswagen anti-perforation warranty.
• Components, equipment or software (Chip tuning) which are not part of the vehicle at the point of original manufacture (unapproved modifications)

Link to the factory warranty terms and conditions VW’s website;
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/important-information/warranties-and-insurance/new-car-terms.html

If your car’s original factory warranty has expired and you have is an extended warranty (VW or otherwise), then whether suspension bushes are covered will depend on the scope of cover / exclusions outlined in the warranty policy booklet, so it’d be worth reading through the small print.

My thoughts too. I'm on my second extended warranty (2017 car). Dealer said they treat each case individually so not sure really.
Going to do more research on poly bushes.

[madstaff]

Poly bushes are notorious for squeeking, if its a daily driver I would, as Paul70 has done, go with the Clubsport S bush which has smaller voids in to still allow the bush to flex but reduce any excessive movement.

I think the part number is 81A 407 183 having been recently superceded.

Or another option is the TTRS bush which is solid rubber 8S0 407 183B IIRC.

[The_Doc]

Suspension bushes would normally be considered a consumable, wear and tear item, in which case they’re unlikely to be covered under warranty.

Although suspension bushes aren’t specifically mentioned as excluded in the terms and conditions of VW’s original 3 year factory warranty, it does give examples of the types of wear and tear items that aren’t covered. The items listed below under the second bullet point are examples of wear and tear items quoted by VW and not an exhaustive list, but IMHO the implication is that other wear and tear items would also be excluded (see extract below from VW’s website);

Items which are excluded from warranty cover include but are not limited to:

• Components or equipment which were not part of the vehicle at the point of original manufacture.
• Fair wear and tear items, such as brake pads, brake discs, brake and clutch linings, wiper rubbers, spark plugs, bulbs and fuses, tyres, carpets and seat covers.
• Fluids, oils and coolants (except as part of a valid repair).
• Bodywork, unless the vehicle is subject to the Volkswagen anti-perforation warranty.
• Components, equipment or software (Chip tuning) which are not part of the vehicle at the point of original manufacture (unapproved modifications)

Link to the factory warranty terms and conditions VW’s website;
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/important-information/warranties-and-insurance/new-car-terms.html

If your car’s original factory warranty has expired and you have is an extended warranty (VW or otherwise), then whether suspension bushes are covered will depend on the scope of cover / exclusions outlined in the warranty policy booklet, so it’d be worth reading through the small print.

It is important to remember that wear has to be reasonable. If this is a sub 3 year old car with only a few miles on it, it’s unlikely to be reasonable that the bushings would fail. If it’s done 30k miles or is older, it would be. I’ve had luck arguing a similar thing with Volvo a few years ago.

[SRGTD]

It is important to remember that wear has to be reasonable. If this is a sub 3 year old car with only a few miles on it, it’s unlikely to be reasonable that the bushings would fail. If it’s done 30k miles or is older, it would be. I’ve had luck arguing a similar thing with Volvo a few years ago.

Agree re. reasonable wear.

The OP didn’t state in their first post whether the car was still covered under the original factory warranty, but in a subsequent post they did say its a 2017 car and on its second extended warranty. I think the mk8 Golf went on sale in Q1 2020, so it was likely that the OP’s mk7.5 was going to be over three years old.

[Finglonga]

"Advisory" = Leave them as not needed yet.