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Jackie Treehorn

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Re: Recall 5c back to factory for "modify engine exhaust management "
« Reply #20 on: 26 September 2015, 17:36 »
Jackie, Why don't we just go the whole hog and everyone buy Nissan leafs or Prius ffs. It's ridiculous statements like 'sooner diesels are removed from the roads the better'that cause idiot politicians to think it's a good idea. What do you expect the haulage industry to use to get your groceries to the shop?? Petrol cars pump out more co2s than diesels so should they be removed from the roads too?

 :grin: relax, I doubt any politicians would listen, as making us pay at the pumps is very useful for the near future to them. but we are sold something as being cheap to run and better on emissions but its generally false.  All city buses and taxi should be electric, we have absolutely no need to kick out the NOX gasses in cities where the journeys and infrastructure can accommodate it. I don't want electric cars for all btw, I'm not a tree hugger but in cities? when the journeys are known for the given bus company routes so charging wouldn't be an issue? The article I posted a link to is very enlightening? and the level of NOX taken from trees near schools is shocking.

Food to shops and general haulage is another issue altogether that can be justified in the use of a diesel vehicle. but i see no need for cars road cars to have diesels.  And i have had diesels in the past (4 ithink) VW Audi BMW

Please take note of the "imo" its only a forum, but I don't see the point of diesels if the lower CO2 rating given to them, then puts out more dangerous NOX.  I think we should move away from them for road car.

While France has banned the worse diesels in Paris since July 2015

“We are determined to act quickly,” Paris’s Socialist mayor told Le Monde. “The fine particles [from diesel fumes and responsible for around 42,000 deaths a year in France] emitted mostly by public buses and coaches are a major health concern.”
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Re: Recall 5c back to factory for "modify engine exhaust management "
« Reply #21 on: 26 September 2015, 18:14 »
Smoking cigarettes will kill more than 42,000 a year in France!! It was a knee jerk reaction that the f***wit mayor of London jumped on and now other cities are doing the same. No mode of transport is truly 100% green not even pure electric cars.
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Re: Recall 5c back to factory for "modify engine exhaust management "
« Reply #22 on: 26 September 2015, 19:01 »
No mode of transport is truly 100% green not even pure electric cars.

Or bicycles. Think of the emissions created in the growing, harvesting and transportation of crops, the processing that goes into turning them into food, the packaging, yet more transportation to the shops, then the energy required to cook them. All this in order to fuel the cyclist. Oh, and the hot water to wash the plates up afterwards.
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Jackie Treehorn

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Re: Recall 5c back to factory for "modify engine exhaust management "
« Reply #23 on: 26 September 2015, 19:10 »
And so we ban cigarettes in public places. The sooner it moves to the diesels the better. But we probably shouldn't use smoking as part of any argument about killing people through respiratory illness. But that's another story. :wink:
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Re: Recall 5c back to factory for "modify engine exhaust management "
« Reply #24 on: 26 September 2015, 19:32 »
It's what the French have done and what we will be doing over here. Politicians always fail to see the bigger picture and go after the easy targets.
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