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Offline WOLF R

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Re: ABF intake upgrade advice
« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2012, 01:47 »
Would this only really be suitable for a standalone ECU set up or applicable to a OEM / chipped ECU to run without issues?

Because this modification tends to increase cylinder filling for a given throttle opening and engine speed, your combustion will need optimising. On factory OE systems and WOT, the engine tends to over fuel at 4600rpm and fuel mixture can be as rich as a 10:8. The extra air this mod can deliver at those engine speeds, can enlean the mixture towards max torque lambda thus potentially leading to a drive torque improvement. Of course improved AFR is not the only input all that would enhance combustion, as the time to complete/initiate is pretty critical.
You can use any SEM or the factory ECU to deliver a more matched engine calibration. With the work that was done here, we used a megasquirt system, that was built, which then aided with rapid calibration/hardware development. Now that data is known on the hardware it would not be difficult to deliver a digifant calibration similar in philosophy to what was delivered on the megasquirt system.

Offline WOLF R

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Re: ABF intake upgrade advice
« Reply #11 on: 18 November 2012, 01:52 »
Me too, especially shorter runners are it's an easy to do upgrade, no welding required.

As in just silicone hosing the two pieces back together?

The silicone hose was used to adjust the running length until the best torque was achieved via calibration.
Next was the development of the enlarged plenum, again with calibration. The final prototype was welded up and is in use to this day as shown in the illustration below


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Re: ABF intake upgrade advice
« Reply #12 on: 18 November 2012, 09:23 »
There was a shorter runner manifold for sale. Don't know if it's gone though

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Offline Leon27

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Re: ABF intake upgrade advice
« Reply #13 on: 18 November 2012, 21:32 »
Thanks to everyone for putting in the time to provide such detailed and relevant information

Seems like the key to doing these mods is to get the engine management right, Wolf R - is it likely a Digifant chip could be made to suit? If you were able to I'd be very interested in it.

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Re: ABF intake upgrade advice
« Reply #14 on: 18 November 2012, 21:51 »
I would be intrested in seeing how easy it would be to get this running right with the modded intake, as I have a spare manifold and I can tig weld ally  :cool:
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Offline WOLF R

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Re: ABF intake upgrade advice
« Reply #15 on: 19 November 2012, 10:03 »
Thanks to everyone for putting in the time to provide such detailed and relevant information

Seems like the key to doing these mods is to get the engine management right, Wolf R - is it likely a Digifant chip could be made to suit? If you were able to I'd be very interested in it.

Yes it can. I would like to complete the experiment first. Once the data is robust, then it can be repeated on another vehicle with confidence.