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16v into Scirocco
« on: 02 December 2004, 08:41 »
Has anyone done this conversion before into a scirocco or a mk1 golf? Did anyone come across any problems? Any helpful hints?

Ive got both the 86 Golf valver and the scirocco as complete cars and want to use the mk2 box as mine in the 'skyrocket' is shagged :cry:. Any advice on linkages.

Brakes are sorted as the 16v brakes will fit using golf hubs.

Many thanks for any advice. Im starting it at the weekend as i cant cope with the pierburg carb any longer + this way should give an extra 40bhp   :evil:

Cheers for any help.

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'86 Skyrocket

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Re: 16v into Scirocco
« Reply #1 on: 02 December 2004, 10:56 »
cant you buy 16v sciroccos :huh:

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Re: 16v into Scirocco
« Reply #2 on: 02 December 2004, 21:22 »
The engine and box will fit in no problem, use all the mk1 mounts. You will have to modify the exhaust down pipes to fit the rocco and the fuel injection system fits on the drivers side in the mk2, you will have to mod the fuel supply and return pipes on the rocco. Also check the drive shaft inner cv joints, early rocco have 90mm and 16v has 100mm, swap the 16v joints onto your shafts if needed.
Have fun,
Steve.

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Re: 16v into Scirocco
« Reply #3 on: 03 December 2004, 07:50 »
Cheers for the advice mate, muchly apreciated.

Afterwork last night managed to get engine ready to come out and loom nearly ready for the skyrocket, so hopefully have both engines out tonight ti iron out any other probs :undecided:

What would anyone suggest reguarding fuel pump, as the mk2 is in the fuel tank 

Ta again for the help.
Ill keep ya posted

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Re: 16v into Scirocco
« Reply #4 on: 03 December 2004, 19:56 »
Oops, pierburg carb  :sad:. Use a fuel tank, pump and accumulator from a fuel injected rocco and run high pressure fuel pipes to the front.
Steve.

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Re: 16v into Scirocco
« Reply #5 on: 08 December 2004, 23:07 »
About the conversion, its a nightmare :wink:!!!!

The easiest bit is actual swapping of the engine.

I bought a 86 16v gti as a complete working car so had everything.  With both engines removed it was easy to spot that the mk2 engine and box would fit no worries with the refitting of the mk1 mounts to it, simple bolt on job.

Using engine crane (?35 a weekend from HSS) lifted the car using eng. mounts above the engine and then lowered it over. then lifted the engine into place.  Mk2 drive shafts have to be fitted as the scirocco ones dont fit the gearbox.
The ecu fits in the same place as in the mk2 then things started to go wrong.

The distriutor cap fowls the brake reservior so it was sugested that a peugeot one would do the job, which with a side exit i thought too.  But it faces to the rear so is a bit close to servo vac pipe.  Also doing this cap swap meant the 16v leads didnt fit so others need to be sourced.  I tried sierra cosworth silicone leads but they wont reach across the head so back to the drawing board.

Also fueling is proving to be a problem as well.  The 16v uses a lift pump in the tank and filter, accumulator and fuel pump under the car.  This unit unbolts from the underside of the valver but there is not enough space for this under the rear of the rocco.  So i'm now hoping that i can use the standard lift pump in rocco and simply use the fuel pump only mounted to the under carrage  and an inline bowl filter in the engine bay. 

And this is as far as ive got and i need it finished for next thursday night.

Ill keep ya posted
Take it easy

Ideas????? :laugh:

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Re: 16v into Scirocco
« Reply #6 on: 09 December 2004, 22:32 »
If you fit the mk2 16v servo and master cylinder this should clear the dist cap as it is a more compact setup.
Steve.