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headlamp flashers not working
« on: 16 October 2009, 20:09 »
can any one help? I have a prob with my headlamp flashers, they wont flash, but if my dip beam are on the flasher stalk switches to main beam ok and the blue lamp comes on. any one know what wires do what on the indicator stalk. The haynes wiring diagrams are as clear as mud, i cant get my head round them. :huh:

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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #1 on: 19 October 2009, 09:15 »
the same wires that do the flashers also power the main beams, so its not the stalk or wires from them to the lights.  what it could be is the live power feed to the stalk. check the red/yellow wire to the stalk has 12v at all times.  where is your hazard switch, column or dash?
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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #2 on: 20 October 2009, 21:17 »
cheers for the reply rubjonny. hazard switch is on the dash. ive checked the red/yellow wire, its on a small spade its dead with the ign on and off. There is three other wires on larger spades (white/black, white and yellow) on the same plug. these are also dead. when i switch my headlights on thou and pull the indicator stalk back, 12v is showing with my test lamp whilst the stalk is pulled back and the main beam is on( all 4 lamps in the grille). i think, the yellow and white/black wires are live whilst the headlamps switch on the dash is on. seems to me something is connected wrong on the circuit. no relays operate on this circuit do they?

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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2009, 09:21 »
the red/yel wire is your problem, it should be permanent live.
its not fuesed either, so follow the wire back to the fusebox till you fined the break in the wire.  It runs back to B/13 :)
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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #4 on: 22 October 2009, 22:00 »
Ok, ive checked behind the fuse box b/13 red/yellow is intermittently on. eg if i squeeze the plug into the fuse box with the test lamp connected to red/yel, the lamp comes on, as soon as i pull the indicator stalk or take some pressure off the plug it goes off. Question is, i have 2 options now.

 1: Connect another permanent feed to this red/yellow wire? i have actually just tried this with a 10A fuse and the fuse popped but me thinking now it probably will LOL. "currentxVolts=Watts" so working from this i guess the headlights and driving lights add up to 220 watts? at 12v =  @ 20A fuse!

2: source a replacment fuse box. or is it possible to take these apart to repair, seems like a dry joint,

im all for option 1 i know its a bodge  :wink:but i could cause more problems with messing with the fuse box, will i do any damage by putting a permonent feed to the red/ yellow wire? i would defo fuse it though 30A?

appreciate your help 

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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #5 on: 23 October 2009, 10:54 »
there would be no problem adding a different wire, adding a fuse will add a bit more safety, as i say the factory wire isnt fuesed anyway :)

I'd start by poppign the plug out of the fusebox, see what the damage is. it maybe a previous owner has run too high wattage lights, and caused the wire to get too hot and melt the plug a bit.  might just be tyou can get away with cleanign up the contacts and pinching the pin a tiny bit to make it grip more tightly.

if the fusebox looks damaged I'd recommend you replace it, who knows what else is wrong inside it!

Oh, and follow the wire back. some of the dash wiring passesd thru a massive black connector plug, sometimes the contacts in this get a bit poor, this could be the casue of your problem?

Once all fixed, I'd consider getting a relayed lighting loom. This will stop all the load from the headlights runnign thru the headlight & flasher switch, instead taking the load direct from the battery. this will increase the life of your stalk and light switch, plus give you better light output :)
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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #6 on: 26 October 2009, 20:22 »
ive had chance to have another go at the lamps tonite but ive made it worse.  :cry: whooops! the fuse box is suprisingly clean for 20yrs old. the 'B' plug and socket are very clean. i connected a live to the red/yellow wire, pulled the flasher stalk and no. 8 10a fuse blown on fuse box. ive replaced the fuse. removed the live now every time i pull the flasher stalk, no. 8 fuse blows and n/s headlamp goes off. any ideas? these dark nites annoy me cus as soon as i finish work its dark so i will have to wait till the week end to have another look. wished i had a garage LOL.

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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #7 on: 27 October 2009, 10:52 »
#8 is for the right sidelight & rear light, have a look at the wiring in the boot and the engine bay, you're looking at the grey/red wires. also while you're there check the dim/dip resistor, the wires to it have a habbit of rubbing thru on the chassis leg and shorting out, buggering up the lighting loom.
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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #8 on: 27 October 2009, 23:17 »
Ive had the torch out again LOL. Neighbours must think im crazy playing with my pride and joy on the drive in the dark :laugh:. bothered? NOT!

Ive took the bottom half of the air box off to get at the resistor plug, contacts are green! left it disconnected, (is this resistor for dim dip headlights?) well it wasnt working. all is well now. no fuses blowing. must have shown up a weak link when i connected a live to that red/yellow. flashers r still not working but i think i will do the relay mod first so as to not put any more strain on the circuit. oh and whilst the air box was off i removed the chamber on the l/h side of the box. gives a nice induction noise now  :grin: your help is appreciated! :cool: cheers

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Re: headlamp flashers not working
« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2009, 08:14 »
if it had yellow wires yeah its the dim dip :)
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