cheers for the replies guys ive been and ordered a set of bolts and its a good job
i got a 8mm hex socket and tapped it in and as soon as i put a bit of pressure on the ratchet it just spun in the bolt so i then got my irwins out to try and see if they would work and they should once i get some leverage on them
i sprayed with wd40 to leave over night as i cant find any plus gas
so i will be back at it tomorrow once i pick my new bolts up (£8.46 for 4 bolts from vw robbing stards)