Hi GuysNew on this forum!...............we collected our Tornado Ed 30 last week having done a good deal P ex on a GT tdi 140. It's definitely a buyers market and I wouldn't be afraid to push the dealer! Do your homework first, we checked out the VW forecourt price on our P ex and used that to get another 1K for it. Also they see the MK 5 as an outgoing model so keen to move the stock by new year. If you want an Ed 30 as we did (and new at that) time is now!! Really love the car..........only done 200 miles in it! We also shopped around on the net for ' Gap' insurance. Then when we confronted the dealer with a £200 saving over his price he matched that too!!! Just goes to show the dealers are struggling too!!! Don't give in too easilyCheers Steve B