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Offline Kermit

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4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« on: 02 March 2008, 14:46 »
Does anyone know what is involved on a 4 wheel alignment.  My car was in the stealers a few weeks back for the steering rack replacement.  Car hasn't been used since (well apart from drive home) and came to give it a wash this morning (never let stealers wash it) - I've noticed a very straight "scratch" from the wheel nut area to the outer side of the rim (basically down the spoke) - this is on the front two wheels.    I'm pretty anal about scratches and I'm certain I would have noticed these the last time I washed the car (given the wheels also get polished everytime) - they don't look like they are "road" induced.  Bit gutted  :cry: but can't see what comeback I have as I won't be able to prove the wheel condition before the work. So - does anything get attached to the wheels for the process?  I have heard about laser based alignment but again I don't really know whats involved

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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #1 on: 02 March 2008, 16:00 »
with laser alignment they have to put these huge things over the wheels, which if I remember rightly include two metal hooks which hold it close to the wheel, but they usually have rubber on to protect the wheel.  go back and kick up hell....
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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #2 on: 02 March 2008, 16:36 »
Believe you me, they will know that they have done it! :shocked:

They will also know the tell tale signs ie straight scratch on both sides. Kick up a fuss matey - I would.
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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #3 on: 03 March 2008, 13:24 »
Thanks for the comments - the more I thought about it the more it pi$$ed me off, is it too much to ask that your pride and joy is returned in the same condition it went in as!  Spoke to someone this morning about it - they didn't seem too surprised so maybe it's fairly common although they did ask which wheel and when I said all four had scratches they where a bit surprised.  She even mentioned that the Technician is told to put some paper towel on the contact points - can't have been the expensive Bounty stuff!  Anyway - Service Manager is convieniently off ill at the moment so waiting for call back.  Assuming they accept liability would reconditioning solve it or should I ask for four new Monza's  :smiley: (maybe I'll name and shame if not - think after this they have lost my business)  I do like the "machined" look of the wheel so not sure how the scratches could be removed without also changing this.

Sad but as anyone got pics of a car being aligned using Optiflex?
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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #4 on: 03 March 2008, 13:46 »
you will not hear back from them.best thing to do is march down there and kick off.  :smiley:


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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #5 on: 03 March 2008, 18:46 »
If they aren't deep scratches and are simply the laquer coating then they will be able to polish it out completely. If the scratch is deeper and has gone through the laquer, then they need replacing.
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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #6 on: 03 March 2008, 19:04 »
You can't "fix" monza's. I'd be demanding replacements.

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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #7 on: 05 March 2008, 12:30 »
Stealer said they would ring me back on Monday, gave them Tuesday to call back (plus couldn't press it as had a $hit load of work on) - no call back so JoesGti you were right  :smiley:.  Refrained from going in this morning at 8 when other punters would be dropping off their cars for service and kickin off.  Anyway went down mid-morning ended up speaking to someone else (not the women that said she would call me back).  He had a look at the alloys and said there was no way he could see the alignment process would cause it, so we went to have a look at the clamps and where the process was performed and to be honest I also could not see how the long scratches could be caused.  It looks like 3 "arms" hook onto the rim and 2 further arms clamp round the tyre (in a tread groove) - there was a clearance of about 1.5 inches between the centre of the clamp and the centre of the wheel and on release it looked like nothing touched the wheel if it was pulled away correctly.  The three arms that clamp on the rim had rubber grommets slid over a metal dowel but the metal was exposed (which I suspect it should not be - maybe this is why they use paper towels) so my only assumption now is that when they removed the clamp the arm was dragged across the alloy (difficult to prove though).  This wasn't sufficient for them to accept liability and I was told if something was damaged by a technician then the Service Manager would know about - which you would hope so but you would need a keen eye to spot these anyway (like when you spend time polishing the wheel  :grin:).  What the guy noticed on all four of my wheels was the starting of the worm issue - which I knew existed but I didn't actually have any worms just white dots on the outside edge of the rim (I was going to wait until I actually got worming to claim on the warranty) so they are replacing all 4 wheels because of this.  So I do get some resolution in that I get new wheels, but no clarity on exactly how the scratching happened in the first place (or acceptance of liability).  I guess I'm lucky this can be claimed on the warranty just hope the same scratching issue doesn't happen to someone elses Monzas so if you know any work involves a 4 wheel alignment I would suggest cleaning the wheels and taking photos - something you really should not have to do but it may aid any issue query later on.
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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #8 on: 05 March 2008, 14:23 »
So a good resolution after all. Let's just hope they don't give you someone elses "refurbed" monza's :sick:

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Re: 4 Wheel Alignment Resulting In Scratched Monzas?
« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2008, 16:37 »
Well he did say some new ones will be ordered in and they have changed the lacquer process so worming should not happen now - bet I'll be on this forum in 6 months time moaning my wheels have tape worm   :sick:

Just out of interest - any tell tale signs on refurbs?
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