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Offline Dragon6

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #10 on: 15 October 2007, 19:22 »
Crikey thought both models would have faired better than that I average 31mpg in my VR6 and at 60mph is always in the mid 30`s,was thinking of changing it but think I`ll keep her for a bit longer now :smiley:

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #11 on: 15 October 2007, 20:17 »
Well I would like to see if I can get a few MPG, will try replacing the Engine ECU Relay no.30, Kindly mentioned earlier, This does seem to be a problem for a few people, I got the old one out of the fuse box this evening & is the original one, will order a new one up tommorow, see if it does the trick.

Does anyone know how to get to relay no. 30, without having to take the one under it out first (i think this as no. 56)

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #12 on: 15 October 2007, 22:27 »
If your ECU relay is black, it's definately original. These were made in Malaysia (spelling!!) and are known to give many problems. Replace it with one from the VW dealers and it should be made in good old Germany and coloured grey.

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #13 on: 16 October 2007, 08:48 »
My overall is 28/29mpg. get 28 on motorway at 90.
At around 50 on normal roads I have seen 44mpg.
So really it all depends how heavy your right foot is! :grin:
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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #14 on: 16 October 2007, 08:56 »
I must say as I was only doing 60Mph, I was hoping to achieve a little more than 31. as around the 70mph mark, this would see my fuel consumption worsen more, and was hoping for more like 31 combined, not best!!

 take it it was the Main engine ECU relay you changed? Did the main dealer suggest this? I will certianly look into purchasing this part! Do you have the Part no.? Also is it poss. to post a pic with the location of the part?

I think that the rotor arm is the only part out of your list that has not very recenty been changed, will take the dizzy cap off & have  a look as I have not done this yet!!!I have noticed on another post that there can be a prob with the engine temp sender, causing the car to overfuel, is this a common or likely thing to cause?>


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Original relay is a small black box of electronics where a small amp circuit controls a larger one - in this case the main ECU. As the original was made in some place the World left behind, the cost cutting exercise behind the rational of manufacturing such a critical component there is not one of VWs best decisions. Frankly I would replace it anyways - No 30 above the fuses (under driver's dashboard) , and you may have to temporarily unplug others to get at it. As for a main dealer recommendation - welll Nurse stitch back my splitting sides - they wouldn't even know what a Mk3 is - it is way too old for them, and would Sir like a brand new GTI instead - a snip at £21 000. No, the information comes from a bit of knowledge about how these things work, 30 odd years of mucking about with cars and of course, this very useful forum.

  
Ref fault finding, golden rule is to do one thing at a time, replace everything else as was, and see if it cures the fault. Take it slowly and logically. Check any air/vacuum hoses for leaks whilst you're at it. Yes engine temp sender could be another possibility, but stick to the simple and obvious first and see if that cures it.

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #15 on: 17 October 2007, 22:58 »
My overall is 28/29mpg. get 28 on motorway at 90.
At around 50 on normal roads I have seen 44mpg.
So really it all depends how heavy your right foot is! :grin:

I can sometimes suffer with a heavy foot, My doctors says it is a side effect of driving a GTi

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #16 on: 17 October 2007, 23:02 »
I have a 16v 5 door of the same year and careful driving below 60 continuously for over 7/8 miles I can achieve 41 mpg - more with super. This is ideal of course. Motorway at a steady 80, I achieve around 36. My own view is that your fuel consumption is a little heavy. By all means check out filters/plugs/rotor arm/distributor contacts/tyre inflation, check if brakes are binding, wheel bearings OK etc etc.

However, I did all of this previously, and occassionally I still could not better 33 mpg and it sometimes felt a little gutless. I then changed out the ECU relay and voila!

Doing the service checks and replacing cheap components such as filter/plugs/cap/rotor arm/ undoubtedly helped to achive my current figures, but the biggest single factor was the ECU relay.

The relay being £10 from a dealer it's surely worth a punt.

My no.30 Relay came in stock today, fitted it on my lunch, cost £9.98 inc. VAT.

I must say...What a smile it brought to my face!! ANY hestiation I was fiding b4 is NO MORE, stick ya foot down b4, and it would judder & hesitate, now stick your foot down, it just goes, as any 150bhp golf should! I am a lot happier with it, I've not et really noticed improved fuel consumption (cos i've been having fun with it, but will see what it returns on my next decent size run!

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Re: Fuel Consumption - GTi 16v 1997 (newbie)
« Reply #17 on: 22 October 2007, 08:55 »
Glad it seems to have improved matters - recommend you also do all the other maintenance stuff, and perhaps clean the throttle body too. All of these are relatively simple to do when armed with the Haynes manual.