wheel spinning

[Teutonic_Tamer]

....I'm very much in agreement with what others have posted: Tyres are your only point of road contact and very important. I've had Conti's, Bridgestones, and now Goodyear Eagle F1's. I find the F1's streets ahead of the others for grip and traction in both dry and wet - I heard their good reputation but didn't expect them to be quite as good as they are. They're a little noisier on the road but who cares about that?

You surprise me with your comments on the Goodyear F1s.  The whole point of directional tyres is that they are supposed to be much more quite, compared to standard or assymetric tread patterns.  One big problem with all directionals is they suffer from aquaplaning much more dramatically as the tread wears.

I personally don't get it when people use the F1s - as they have never had any OEM approvals.  They are now obsolete too!  If you are after ultimate performance tyres, then look at an ultimate performance road car - Porsche, as they ONLY use Michelin and Continental as OEM boots.

Wheelspin is avoidable if you learn how to feed the throttle progressively and I have an extremely throttle-responsive car which has taught me how to do it if I want to avoid wheelspin.

Yeah, that gets me too!  Why do some people not understand that the accellerator pedal is much more than a simple "off-on switch" !!!

[RedRobin]

....I'm very much in agreement with what others have posted: Tyres are your only point of road contact and very important. I've had Conti's, Bridgestones, and now Goodyear Eagle F1's. I find the F1's streets ahead of the others for grip and traction in both dry and wet - I heard their good reputation but didn't expect them to be quite as good as they are. They're a little noisier on the road but who cares about that?

You surprise me with your comments on the Goodyear F1s.  The whole point of directional tyres is that they are supposed to be much more quite, compared to standard or assymetric tread patterns.  One big problem with all directionals is they suffer from aquaplaning much more dramatically as the tread wears.

....Definitely not quieter but not noisier to the point where it matters. However, my car has all sorts of wonderful sounds going on . I've read elsewhere that the F1's are noisier and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm influenced by the placebo effect.

....I best watch out for aquaplaning though I am very conscious of never touching my brakes when on visible water, though an emergency is an emergency.

I personally don't get it when people use the F1s - as they have never had any OEM approvals.  They are now obsolete too!  If you are after ultimate performance tyres, then look at an ultimate performance road car - Porsche, as they ONLY use Michelin and Continental as OEM boots.

....The guy who runs Drivetrain (whose opinions I greatly respect) recommends the Michelins but I wasn't especially impressed by the Contis originally supplied on my GTI.

Wheelspin is avoidable if you learn how to feed the throttle progressively and I have an extremely throttle-responsive car which has taught me how to do it if I want to avoid wheelspin.

Yeah, that gets me too!  Why do some people not understand that the accellerator pedal is much more than a simple "off-on switch" !!!

....Yep, you don't have to be a brain surgeon to understand that one! I find it far more rewarding to make a fast getaway without wheelspin.

[Hurdy]

The conti's on mine are excellent in both the dry and the wet.

[Shrodinger's Cat]

I know others have recommened Bridgestones, but I would strongly recommend NOT using them.  I have personally experienced truely shocking performance from Bridgestones, but also reasonable performance too.  Anthother poster here, Schrodingers Cat, if I remember correctly, also had a torrid time with Bridgestones on his GTI, which was transformed when he swapped them for Pilot Sport 2s. 

Ah yes, 'twas indeed me.  I can certainly recommend the Mich PS2's for grip in both wet and dry conditions, but they are not cheap.   

[KentBladeboy]

The RE050's are standard on mine and give tremendous grip in wet and dry............until you try to turn quick in the wet on a very tight radius, such as a mini roundabout, then they lose all grip and plough straight on,  so due for some PS2's in next few weeks and will see if they solve this little issue

TT.......I had the BT015's on the Blade and the best I got out of 2 rears was 1500miles, so switched to Pilot Sports, much better life upto 3K so far and still tread left, and yes, you can drift the back when pushing on to the point of leaving darkies but they never just snap, so all good fun 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I find it far more rewarding to make a fast getaway without wheelspin.

Agreed completely.

I actually find people who purposely wheelspin (or even regularly "accidentally" !!) are merely showing a complete lack of maturity - both in personal terms, and also in driving ability.

OK, on extremely rare occasions, I too have lit the fronts - but it is usually if I have incorrectly read the road or traffic conditions - and when I do, I feel a numpty!  :embarassed:

[Teutonic_Tamer]

The conti's on mine are excellent in both the dry and the wet.

What type of Contis?  Sport Contact 2, or Sport Contact 3

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I know others have recommened Bridgestones, but I would strongly recommend NOT using them.  I have personally experienced truely shocking performance from Bridgestones, but also reasonable performance too.  Anthother poster here, Schrodingers Cat, if I remember correctly, also had a torrid time with Bridgestones on his GTI, which was transformed when he swapped them for Pilot Sport 2s. 

Ah yes, 'twas indeed me.  I can certainly recommend the Mich PS2's for grip in both wet and dry conditions, but they are not cheap.   

But surely the price should be secondary to keeping your car on the road!    Anyway, in my experience, after a couple of hours on the phone, I can usually haggle down the price of Michelins to around £10-15 more than similar brands. 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

The RE050's are standard on mine and give tremendous grip in wet and dry............until you try to turn quick in the wet on a very tight radius, such as a mini roundabout, then they lose all grip and plough straight on,  so due for some PS2's in next few weeks and will see if they solve this little issue

But I personally wouldn't class that as "tremendous grip"!

OK, there may be underlying issues in your "driving style" which provoke that kind of behaviour - but that scenario is fairly classic with most Jap car tyres, and also with Goodyears.

TT.......I had the BT015's on the Blade and the best I got out of 2 rears was 1500miles, so switched to Pilot Sports, much better life upto 3K so far and still tread left, and yes, you can drift the back when pushing on to the point of leaving darkies but they never just snap, so all good fun 

Oh, it seems that Michelin have really taken on board some long-standing criticisms of their motorcycle boots.  Trouble is, once bitten, twice shy!