Author Topic: mk5 gti  (Read 8189 times)

Offline Neaty

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 6,395
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #20 on: 25 November 2005, 21:24 »
my mates dad was saying that years ago there was a billboard type advert with a golf gti against a astra gte at the lights (mark 2's both of them) and the guy in the glf was sat al relaxed whilst the astra guy was sat looking aggressive and wound up. I think the idea was that the golf may not be the fastest hatch back but is the best!

Offline Snoopy

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 7,761
  • Geoff.
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #21 on: 25 November 2005, 22:29 »
im comparing the mk5 golf gti to the mk4 golf gttdi 130, i found that there is a lot more kick with mk4 gttdi and its only 130bhp.
the hand brake,well its more than less over by the passanger.
for the money i would like to feel the power not look for it.
im not going to say any more other wise i be hated by the mk5 golf owners,i dont wont that,may be the r32 will impress me. :smiley:
Ok as we had a 130 GT TDI and now own a 2005 SEAT leon TDI130se which imho is far more refined than the mk4 golf is but anyway off topic, i know this TDI engine well the kick is turbo lag it gets on my t1ts at roundabouts and junctions when you want a quick getaway go ok then sudeenly its away it feels fast due to the narrow power band and this lag.
Now as i drive both the leon tdi and the mk5 GTI daily i can compare and the GTI ingear pull is just as good as the TDI130 yes the GTi is at slight higher revs but gear for gear there a match and the GTI will rev higher in each gear too so not as many gear changed needed it has good low end pull. Its also very linier in power delivery and so does not get that woosh sudden pull old style turbo boost some would call it that the TDI has.
The mk5 GTI imo is also far quieter and more refined than both the TDI cars are/were. This of cause will make it feel slower too.

On the subject of the handbrake i sort of agree why they gave us the LHD side handbrake i don't know especially as the broucher shows the handbrake on the drivers side in every verion of the broucher i have seen for both versions of the centre concel. But all mk5s seem to have the LHD handbrake layout.
Mk6 GTI  &  Mk1 GTI 
34 years of GTI ownership.

Offline Snoopy

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 7,761
  • Geoff.
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #22 on: 25 November 2005, 22:31 »
my mates dad was saying that years ago there was a billboard type advert with a golf gti against a astra gte at the lights (mark 2's both of them) and the guy in the glf was sat al relaxed whilst the astra guy was sat looking aggressive and wound up. I think the idea was that the golf may not be the fastest hatch back but is the best!
The golf was red and the astra white. I have multiple copy of it somewere it use to be in mags like autocar and whatcar in about 1990.
Mk6 GTI  &  Mk1 GTI 
34 years of GTI ownership.

Offline Ali-Jay

  • Not said much yet
  • **
  • Posts: 43
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #23 on: 26 November 2005, 22:46 »
im comparing the mk5 golf gti to the mk4 golf gttdi 130, i found that there is a lot more kick with mk4 gttdi and its only 130bhp.
the hand brake,well its more than less over by the passanger.
for the money i would like to feel the power not look for it.
im not going to say any more other wise i be hated by the mk5 golf owners,i dont wont that,may be the r32 will impress me. :smiley:
Ok as we had a 130 GT TDI and now own a 2005 SEAT leon TDI130se which imho is far more refined than the mk4 golf is but anyway off topic, i know this TDI engine well the kick is turbo lag it gets on my t1ts at roundabouts and junctions when you want a quick getaway go ok then sudeenly its away it feels fast due to the narrow power band and this lag.
Now as i drive both the leon tdi and the mk5 GTI daily i can compare and the GTI ingear pull is just as good as the TDI130 yes the GTi is at slight higher revs but gear for gear there a match and the GTI will rev higher in each gear too so not as many gear changed needed it has good low end pull. Its also very linier in power delivery and so does not get that woosh sudden pull old style turbo boost some would call it that the TDI has.
The mk5 GTI imo is also far quieter and more refined than both the TDI cars are/were. This of cause will make it feel slower too.

On the subject of the handbrake i sort of agree why they gave us the LHD side handbrake i don't know especially as the broucher shows the handbrake on the drivers side in every verion of the broucher i have seen for both versions of the centre concel. But all mk5s seem to have the LHD handbrake layout.

I couldn't agree more about the very short rev band in the PD TDi's and the switch like power delivery, it certainly gives the front wheels a hell of a hard time in slippery conditions when youÂ’re trying to make a quick getaway.:embarassed:

Similarly I agree with your comments about the broader linear power delivery of MkV GTi's. However in turn this brings up a couple of points for possible discussion;

1/ Does the MkV GTi engine really need a 6 speed gear box? As the power is so wide spread, wouldn't a 5 speed box make it even easier to drive in everyday situations?

2/ Alternatively to make it a sharper drivers car wouldn't it benefit from a slightly peakier power delivery?

LetÂ’s be honest, unless you have incredibly short arms the position of the hand brake 70mm off centre can hardly be a major ergonomic issue. And finally, I'm pretty sure that the shots in all VW sales literature are produced globally (i.e. left hand drive in all cases) and they just reverse the image and superimpose MPH for KPH for the UK market. :rolleyes:

Offline Neaty

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 6,395
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #24 on: 26 November 2005, 23:40 »
my mates dad was saying that years ago there was a billboard type advert with a golf gti against a astra gte at the lights (mark 2's both of them) and the guy in the glf was sat al relaxed whilst the astra guy was sat looking aggressive and wound up. I think the idea was that the golf may not be the fastest hatch back but is the best!
The golf was red and the astra white. I have multiple copy of it somewere it use to be in mags like autocar and whatcar in about 1990.

ah good someone knows what i am on about, take apic of it and post it up!

Offline GTiMK5

  • Not said much yet
  • **
  • Posts: 72
  • MK 5 R32, 3 door, DBP, Recaros on order
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #25 on: 29 November 2005, 22:21 »
gtimk5, what are you changing too????????

Mark 5 R32. Collect it on the 22nd Feb.

Offline mikeydee

  • Not said much yet
  • **
  • Posts: 15
Re: mk5 gti
« Reply #26 on: 30 November 2005, 18:05 »
some one got some money then. what colour you having it in.
dont get it in black iv had so much bad luck with mine im nearly bankrupt. :sad:.sorry i have a mk4.maybe mk5 will be lucky in black.