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Offline peteryspang

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dogbone mount
« on: 07 September 2016, 04:51 »
Hi everybody,    I know a lot of manual car install the dogbone mount to improve the handling ,  Will those dogbone mount also help to improve the handling for DGS gear box.


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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #1 on: 07 September 2016, 08:26 »
I didn't fit one to improve the handling as such, but to hopefully reduce the amount of tramping that occours when the front wheels spin up.

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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #2 on: 07 September 2016, 09:08 »
Hi everybody,    I know a lot of manual car install the dogbone mount to improve the handling ,  Will those dogbone mount also help to improve the handling for DGS gear box.

The dog bone mount won't help the handling, it may have some positive benefits (although this could be argued) but handling isn't really one of them.

It may be the term "handling" is lost in translation though...


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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #3 on: 07 September 2016, 14:26 »
I didn't fit one to improve the handling as such, but to hopefully reduce the amount of tramping that occours when the front wheels spin up.

And the result?
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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #4 on: 07 September 2016, 15:56 »
I didn't fit one to improve the handling as such, but to hopefully reduce the amount of tramping that occours when the front wheels spin up.

And the result?

Whilst not completely eradicating or reducing the frequency of it, it definitely reduces the severity of the tramping. I do think with the way VW have set up the suspension on the Mk7 it's something you'll never get rid of.

Mine's got lowering springs on it anyway (Eibach Sportlines) as well as the 42 Draft Designs dogbone insert. There's probably more I could do to eradicate it but (most likely) all at the expense of NVH.
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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #5 on: 07 September 2016, 16:26 »
NVH?
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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #6 on: 07 September 2016, 18:05 »
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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #7 on: 10 September 2016, 13:18 »

Whilst not completely eradicating or reducing the frequency of it, it definitely reduces the severity of the tramping. I do think with the way VW have set up the suspension on the Mk7 it's something you'll never get rid of.

Mine's got lowering springs on it anyway (Eibach Sportlines) as well as the 42 Draft Designs dogbone insert. There's probably more I could do to eradicate it but (most likely) all at the expense of NVH.

Really, mine does not tramp at all now since fitting the 034 Motorsport insert and it does help with handling. The whole car feels so planted now under all conditions.

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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #8 on: 10 September 2016, 14:09 »
Strange, the mount has no link to suspension geometry, springs rates or dampers, doesn't say it helps handling in the literature, bit people say it helps the cars handling. It could have a positive effect on the feel of drivetrain connection, as well as the reduced wheel hop.

But I must have a very different idea of car handling...
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Re: dogbone mount
« Reply #9 on: 11 September 2016, 22:30 »
Strange, the mount has no link to suspension geometry, springs rates or dampers, doesn't say it helps handling in the literature, bit people say it helps the cars handling. It could have a positive effect on the feel of drivetrain connection, as well as the reduced wheel hop.

But I must have a very different idea of car handling...

Fully agree. No actual effect I can tell/feel.


Whilst not completely eradicating or reducing the frequency of it, it definitely reduces the severity of the tramping. I do think with the way VW have set up the suspension on the Mk7 it's something you'll never get rid of.

Mine's got lowering springs on it anyway (Eibach Sportlines) as well as the 42 Draft Designs dogbone insert. There's probably more I could do to eradicate it but (most likely) all at the expense of NVH.

Really, mine does not tramp at all now since fitting the 034 Motorsport insert and it does help with handling. The whole car feels so planted now under all conditions.

Are you running standard power? I estimate 300-310 BHP on mine. With the traction control off it tramps.like.mad in 1st in the dry (even feathering the throttle) and in 2nd in the wet. With the traction control on it just reins in the power so much it's like putting the brakes on lol
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