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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #60 on: 09 April 2015, 17:44 »
I asked my dealer yesterday a question about Gen 2 DNS/DNS Pro for BW22 and post week 22 cars.  He's confirmed that Volkswagen have said vehicles already ordered and built week 22 and after would be built to 2016 model year specification.  Good, but...

Although my BW is still unconfirmed, and obviously subject to change, he also mentioned that my car is now unconfirmed BW24 instead of the original BW28.  Too close for comfort  :undecided:  Hope it slips back a bit.
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #61 on: 09 April 2015, 18:17 »
I've just had the opposite conversation with VW UK CS on the phone, the lady told me you get whatever you order and it doesn't automatically become a MY 2016  even if its BW22. I then asked about changing spec and she said you'd need to re-order and go back to the start of the que  :undecided:

Gotta love the inconsistency!

Car-Net is a silly umbrella term that Volkswagen seems to use for different technologies.

  • Car-net "Guide and Inform" has been an option in Germany for a while now, it costs 102€ for MY2015 GTIs and seems quite pointless with basic Google maps support via a phone signal.
  • Car-net "e-Remote" is for electric models only.
  • Car-net "App-connect" offers MirrorLink, CarPlay and Android Auto and can currently only be specced on the new Touran, it's 205€ in Germany and can be used with either Composition Media, Discover Media or Discover Pro.

Seeing as it's an optional extra in the Touran and most likely will be for MY2016 Golfs as well, I don't think VW will add it to anyone who couldn't spec it at the time of ordering.

I'd love to know what the upgraded resolutions for the 6.5" and 8" screens are going to be, the current offers are pathetic.

Well said - agree completely!

Well the Configurator is a shambles - but reading the price list PDF it suggests to me that the full Carn-net will only be on the GTE and e-Golf - the description concerning pre-setting of the climate system is an indicator as this can only be done with a plug-in vehicle thats actually plugged in.

It seems that there is simpler version of it called 'Guide and Inform' which does not have the 'pre-climatisation' capabilities but even the description of the system differs between GTE and e-Golf.

I will be pleasantly surprised if Car-net is fitted to any other 'performance Golfs' post BW22  :sad:

Doesn't look like the price list has been updated for MY 2016 yet, I'm sure 27th April was the day mentioned for when order books officially open.
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #62 on: 09 April 2015, 18:56 »
I've just had the opposite conversation with VW UK CS on the phone, the lady told me you get whatever you order
Thats complete rubbish and pretty much the normal standard for VWCS...

I then asked about changing spec and she said you'd need to re-order and go back to the start of the que
Talk to your dealer - you can change most things prior to BW confirmed. I changed the colour of my car. It can sometimes cause a delay because optional items are ordered on a demand basis - but its certainly not the case that you have to start another order unless the car is BW confirmed (for weeks before build) - or built...
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #63 on: 09 April 2015, 19:17 »
All cars are automatically built to the base country specific spec current at the build week. They do not build Model year 15 cars after BW 22 to cater for orders made prior, year 16 is year 16 and thats that!. Most of the time this just happens and many folk just dont realise the often subtle differences to the post BW 22 (or spec changes BW45) cars they take delivery of.

I guess I need to illustrate my point re factory spec changes (with real examples from last few years) - the classic case is someone who ordered a Golf SE before the 'Match' model (with extra spec) was announced. The factory then starts building Match spec cars and deletes the SE spec - result - you automatically get the additional items in 'Match' without asking - they DO NOT continue to build SE cars to fulfill earlier orders - hence the caveat in the brochures 'VW reserve the right the change specifications without notice etc etc'.

Another example - if you ordered a Scircoco GT in late 2012 (before the free leather interior was announced). During your build wait they changed the base spec to include leather - thats what you got without asking for it. Nobody was given a cloth interior because they did not order the free leather!

But it can work the other way too - on the Golf Mk.V at one point they took out some spec items from the SE and made them optional.  Dealers mainly ignored this and when people got delivery of their cars, I think it was the convenience pack (from memory) was  missing, so no auto dimming rear view mirror, auto lights, wipers etc . What happened is that during the time between ordering and build that pack had been consigned to the options list - but you had to have know that and changed your order to include it as an option in order to still get it.

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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #64 on: 09 April 2015, 19:21 »
I've just had the opposite conversation with VW UK CS on the phone, the lady told me you get whatever you order and it doesn't automatically become a MY 2016  even if its BW22. I then asked about changing spec and she said you'd need to re-order and go back to the start of the que  :undecided:

Gotta love the inconsistency!

Why am I not surprised  :undecided:
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #65 on: 09 April 2015, 19:23 »
They are talking rubbish - see my posts above.....

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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #66 on: 09 April 2015, 19:30 »
They are talking rubbish - see my posts above.....

I know they are.

My understanding is the same as yours as set out in your other post.  I wanted something in writing from the dealer (for what it's worth).
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #67 on: 09 April 2015, 19:36 »
They are talking rubbish - see my posts above.....

I agree. They are talking utter unadulterated garbage.

Another example of which no one was aware, not even the dealers:
All Rs from 2014 BW45 came faux leather door cards and faux leather front arm rest, even if ordered cars were without leather seats. Previous to this BW, cars with standard cloth seats had cloth covered door cards and front arm rest. These faux leather door cards and faux leather front arm rest are the same as in those Rs ordered with Vienna Vinyl Leather. :laugh:
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #68 on: 09 April 2015, 20:03 »
Another example of which no one was aware, not even the dealers:
All Rs from 2014 BW45 came faux leather door cards and faux leather front arm rest, even if ordered cars were without leather seats. Previous to this BW, cars with standard cloth seats had cloth covered door cards and front arm rest. These faux leather door cards and faux leather front arm rest are the same as in those Rs ordered with Vienna Vinyl Leather. :laugh:

I knew that, lol.  I gleaned it from your other favourite forum. 

If you want the facts, forums are the best place to go  :smiley:
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Re: 2016 model year changes
« Reply #69 on: 11 April 2015, 00:27 »
I asked my dealer yesterday a question about Gen 2 DNS/DNS Pro for BW22 and post week 22 cars.  He's confirmed that Volkswagen have said vehicles already ordered and built week 22 and after would be built to 2016 model year specification.  Good, but...

Although my BW is still unconfirmed, and obviously subject to change, he also mentioned that my car is now unconfirmed BW24 instead of the original BW28.  Too close for comfort  :undecided:  Hope it slips back a bit.

As my (albeit unconfirmed) build week, now BW24 (formerly 28) is so close to BW22, I asked my dealer if there was any way to ensure the car gets built after week 22, in the hope I might get the MY 2016 changes. 

So for anybody wondering about asking for an (uc) build week to be held or delayed, this the reply I got:

I have phoned Volkswagen UK and asked them if they can ensure this happens, they can't get the estimated build week push back/held, the required date on the system has been put back, I'm not sure if the factory look at this, they have checked the latest production information from the factory and the lead time is in the region of 22 weeks.

 
I guess it's a case of crossing everything and hoping for the best.  And if not, oh well  :sad:
« Last Edit: 11 April 2015, 00:39 by Booth11 »
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